I'll be fine. The process to reassemble will be quick I think. I should know if I've fixed it by noon.
Build Thread 1978 Mercury Cyclone. The pig is in the pen.
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Thanks.just want to say fantastic work. coming from one fabricator who knows what it takes to do some of the work yo have doen. I'm subbed. i better get to reading.
Coffee is kinda hard when alcohol is the culprit. On those occasions, the water and Excedrin Migraine is what I reach for.
Nope,....no tire roasting.
No chance to even test the thing today.
not today, or tomorrow, or tuesday, or wednesday.
(Look at monday's temp gentlemen,...this is the kinda stuff tornadoes are made of)It's all good. I will get it back together. I'll know if the stalling in 2 and 3 issue is fixed right there in the garage. I don't know for sure but maybe while it's still on the stands. I could run it through the gears and watch speed/rpm to determine if the converter l/u is occurring, I should be able to put my foot on the brake to determine if the thing will idle in second and third gears. Maybe I'll be able to do a road test w/o actually being on a road..
Those are not christmas lights,...they are landing lights for the monster.
Well....I-I-I-I-I ........ Just don't know.
It stopped raining about 10 AM and the roads dried up commensurately. The car was back together and running so,..what better opportunity was I gonna get to road test it?
I backed the thing out and no sooner did I get started out of the driveway, than it started to slip out of gear.
No problem. I needed to add fluid.
I looked at my dipstick it looked like it read dry. Despite the fact that I put every quart back in that had drained out...(matter of fact, I poured the exact same fluid back in (albeit strained through a paint filter to be sure that it didn't have any fungoo in it)).
But now its low. really low. At least it looks that way. I add one full qt of DexmercV check it again,..looks full, put it in gear and were backing up. I pull it into nuetral, and then into 3rd. (ordinarily the engine would've died here) but it sits there,...idling at the same RPM it was in reverse.
I pull it down into 2nd.....same deal.
I pull it into 1st.....I got it fixed...
I pull out of the drive, and onto the street and run through the gears.....first is absolutely normal. the 1-2 change is firm like I want, but it seems that the engine speed is showing me slippage in the gear. I change up to 3rd and it seems like the same thing.
It shifts up and down flawlessly, and under light throttle pressure the shift is hard enough to chirp 2nd gear w/ barely any throttle,..so.....I drive on. In second gear, it looks like the converter will flare to almost 3500 RPM before I notice forward movement. seems the same way in 3rd.
I drive on.
I get on the interstate and accelerate up to speed,....1st,2nd,3rd, all go like they're supposed to excepting the sensation of too much RPM in 2-3...I flip the switch to check 4th.....it works (always did)....then for the money...I flip the L/U button....the converter locks up, engine RPM drops like 300 RPM just like it's s'posed to.
When I get off the interstate,..I decided to go for the hail mary....and wail on it.
1,2,3 all at full power then 4th at 80,......and now I'm rollin'. Sht's flyin' by I lock up the converter and it applies..
When I slow back down, and turn off the L/U and O/D the thing goes back into 3rd like it's sposed to then 2, then 1....everything works.
It just seems like 2 and 3 are slipping. Unless that 10" converter is actually stalling at 3500RPM.
I tried to stand on the brake in 1 and see if I could flash the converter, but the engine overwhelms the tires even standing on the brake as hard as I can, so I can't check that. From what I could tell, that looked to happen at around 2700 RPM....(right where the turbo is fully making 7p.s.i.)
So,..here I sit again unsure of what to do. On one hand I think: "screw it. If the thing is slipping and it burns up,...I gotta remove the trans and fix that". On the other hand (showing what I don't know here about transmissions here) what if it's just an adjustment?
What if I just dont have the band set right, or if some stinkin valve or accumulator is not doing it's job because I left something else out, and it's just another ordeal under the car? See before this, the L/U was applying in second and 3rd before,...I had no reference for how those gears were acting w/o that.
Now I'm on the converter.
What if everything is working perfectly, and I'm just being an automotive hypochondriac?
Maybe I'll take it back out for another test,...and engage l/U in those lower gears, and see if it is/was like it was before....then maybe I'll know based on that...
You guys wanna go for a ride to see?
It stopped raining about 10 AM and the roads dried up commensurately. The car was back together and running so,..what better opportunity was I gonna get to road test it?
I backed the thing out and no sooner did I get started out of the driveway, than it started to slip out of gear.
No problem. I needed to add fluid.
I looked at my dipstick it looked like it read dry. Despite the fact that I put every quart back in that had drained out...(matter of fact, I poured the exact same fluid back in (albeit strained through a paint filter to be sure that it didn't have any fungoo in it)).
But now its low. really low. At least it looks that way. I add one full qt of DexmercV check it again,..looks full, put it in gear and were backing up. I pull it into nuetral, and then into 3rd. (ordinarily the engine would've died here) but it sits there,...idling at the same RPM it was in reverse.
I pull it down into 2nd.....same deal.
I pull it into 1st.....I got it fixed...
I pull out of the drive, and onto the street and run through the gears.....first is absolutely normal. the 1-2 change is firm like I want, but it seems that the engine speed is showing me slippage in the gear. I change up to 3rd and it seems like the same thing.
It shifts up and down flawlessly, and under light throttle pressure the shift is hard enough to chirp 2nd gear w/ barely any throttle,..so.....I drive on. In second gear, it looks like the converter will flare to almost 3500 RPM before I notice forward movement. seems the same way in 3rd.
I drive on.
I get on the interstate and accelerate up to speed,....1st,2nd,3rd, all go like they're supposed to excepting the sensation of too much RPM in 2-3...I flip the switch to check 4th.....it works (always did)....then for the money...I flip the L/U button....the converter locks up, engine RPM drops like 300 RPM just like it's s'posed to.
When I get off the interstate,..I decided to go for the hail mary....and wail on it.
1,2,3 all at full power then 4th at 80,......and now I'm rollin'. Sht's flyin' by I lock up the converter and it applies..
When I slow back down, and turn off the L/U and O/D the thing goes back into 3rd like it's sposed to then 2, then 1....everything works.
It just seems like 2 and 3 are slipping. Unless that 10" converter is actually stalling at 3500RPM.
I tried to stand on the brake in 1 and see if I could flash the converter, but the engine overwhelms the tires even standing on the brake as hard as I can, so I can't check that. From what I could tell, that looked to happen at around 2700 RPM....(right where the turbo is fully making 7p.s.i.)
So,..here I sit again unsure of what to do. On one hand I think: "screw it. If the thing is slipping and it burns up,...I gotta remove the trans and fix that". On the other hand (showing what I don't know here about transmissions here) what if it's just an adjustment?
What if I just dont have the band set right, or if some stinkin valve or accumulator is not doing it's job because I left something else out, and it's just another ordeal under the car? See before this, the L/U was applying in second and 3rd before,...I had no reference for how those gears were acting w/o that.
Now I'm on the converter.
What if everything is working perfectly, and I'm just being an automotive hypochondriac?
Maybe I'll take it back out for another test,...and engage l/U in those lower gears, and see if it is/was like it was before....then maybe I'll know based on that...
You guys wanna go for a ride to see?
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In process now,....the vid doesn't do the ride justice,...but it is what it is. should be about 30 mins.
We need an empty couch emogiUmmm. Its past 30 minutes, sir.
Ok,...I'm an automotive hypochondriac.
The engine is singing to me....I believe the engine hit 6900 RPM before I turned on the camera, once I realized it was running good. Watching it, neither of the two pulls conveys that much of a sensation of power, but of the two, the second one at 5 minutes is the one to watch....(which is the more realistic of the two pulls with regard to how it is to drive.) The mic is so muffled now you can only hear a little bit of the tires,..but it's all good. I'm happy.
This thing made 161 flywheel HP and 246 flywheel torque back in its stock iteration. Based on seat of the pants now.
I'm thinking 350whp,...maybe 400 rwtq at 7 p.s.i. Some day I'll put it on a dyno.
But here we are...Ridin' in the Monster again.
The engine is singing to me....I believe the engine hit 6900 RPM before I turned on the camera, once I realized it was running good. Watching it, neither of the two pulls conveys that much of a sensation of power, but of the two, the second one at 5 minutes is the one to watch....(which is the more realistic of the two pulls with regard to how it is to drive.) The mic is so muffled now you can only hear a little bit of the tires,..but it's all good. I'm happy.
This thing made 161 flywheel HP and 246 flywheel torque back in its stock iteration. Based on seat of the pants now.
I'm thinking 350whp,...maybe 400 rwtq at 7 p.s.i. Some day I'll put it on a dyno.
But here we are...Ridin' in the Monster again.
Thanks for the ride. Thats gotta be exciting to pop it through the gears, I do have a question, what is the green light that dances back and forth in the gauge pod?
My long distance driving plans for the monster in 2017 have come to a realistic halt. With the knee operations planned for apr 1. and the house move in planned for july 1,...there won't be any time left to do anything except work. This is a young Gila Monster,...he has many more years of driving in front of him...Maybe we can make a mini meet somewhere in and around the end of summer? Like Ohh,....Memphis maybe?
Blues,...BBQ,...Beer....We'll call it the first annual...Fall,........ Down festival.
Then Collin and Allen can come up from Houston.
It's Kitt's cousin Twitt.
No,...actually it's a turn signal direction indicator. Why it moves around when the TS's arent on is beyond me, and summit (where the gauges come from) can't tell me.
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