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jeremythedestroyer · Sep 20, 2019

Knocked this out real quick last night. Should be sealing the lower intake on this weekend so I wanted to block off the egr ports.

A router bit with an undersized bearing made quick work of this

And epoxied in. Might skim more epoxy over it for a completely flush finish but if the gasket sits outside the cut that's probably not gonna happen haha, I think this will do the job.

Now I wait and see if Houston being underwater will slow down all the parts that were suppose to arrive this weekend.

CarMichael Angelo · Sep 20, 2019

jeremythedestroyer said:
Knocked this out real quick last night. Should be sealing the lower intake on this weekend so I wanted to block off the egr ports.

A router bit with an undersized bearing made quick work of this

And epoxied in. Might skim more epoxy over it for a completely flush finish but if the gasket sits outside the cut that's probably not gonna happen haha, I think this will do the job.

Now I wait and see if Houston being underwater will slow down all the parts that were suppose to arrive this weekend.

I dont think that's gonna work.
That port is exposed to exhaust heat...I dont know what your epoxy is rated to withstand temp-wise, but typically it's not that hot.

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 21, 2019

CarMichael Angelo said:
I dont think that's gonna work.
That port is exposed to exhaust heat...I dont know what your epoxy is rated to withstand temp-wise, but typically it's not that hot.

It depends, how hot does it need to withstand? I'm curious how it would fail. The plate is the technically sitting on a ledge so it wouldn't have anywhere to go, maybe the epoxy melts(?) And goes where it shouldn't? Hmm I'll have to think about this

CarMichael Angelo · Sep 21, 2019

jeremythedestroyer said:
I just checked and I'm off a little on temps. I'm now curious how it'll fail. The plate is the technically sitting on a ledge so it wouldn't have anywhere to go, maybe the epoxy melts(?) And goes where it shouldn't? Hmm I'll have to think about this

It'll just probably heat fatigue and end up as little chunks that either just rattle around inside the heat riser, or go out the tail pipe. There are intake gasket kits that come with a metal plate to block off the heat riser. I have seen some of those plates burned through before IIRC.

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 21, 2019

Checked epoxy package and it says 550F

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 26, 2019

While the weather last week made me wait on the intake gaskets I did however get a new radiator in followed by a new cordless impact.

Also decided I didn't like where my wastegate was located so I patched the hole and am getting psyched up to affix it right on the turbo housing. The plumbing to it would have been really tight and really close to important things, I'm also going to point to the fact I've seen it done on Sloppy Mechanics and Mighty Car Mods as proof it's not an insane idea lol.

General karthief · Sep 26, 2019

What? No pics of the new impact?

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 26, 2019

General karthief said:
What? No pics of the new impact?

I'll give you internet points if you can guess which one I got

RaggedGT · Sep 26, 2019

Earthquake XL?

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 26, 2019

RaggedGT said:
Earthquake XL?

Nope although the price point does seem to fit my MO

RaggedGT · Sep 26, 2019

jeremythedestroyer said:
Nope although the price point does seem to fit my MO

Did it come off a truck ,or a hardware supply store?

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 26, 2019

Technically neither and technically both. The UPS man brought me this ebay purchase (New).

Got right to business tonight. Mark and drill until it looks like this:

I was very hesitant to do this but found its much easier than I thought to hole saw through cast steel than I thought. Hit some sharp edges with the die grinder and got to welding on the v-band flange.

I did my best to mimic the youtubers who did this. Preheated with a torch and after I finished wrapped it up in several old gloves and a welding apron to get it to cool slowly. I tigged it with silicon bronze. Supposed to be a good material to weld to cast with and the melting point is far higher than an engine should see. The setup being preheated helped the rod to flow easily into the joint. I'm am very pleased with how this turned out and how easily welding/brazing this went.

CarMichael Angelo · Sep 26, 2019

jeremythedestroyer said:
Technically neither and technically both. The UPS man brought me this ebay purchase (New).

Got right to business tonight. Mark and drill until it looks like this:

I was very hesitant to do this but found its much easier than I thought to hole saw through cast steel than I thought. Hit some sharp edges with the die grinder and got to welding on the v-band flange.

I did my best to mimic the youtubers who did this. Preheated with a torch and after I finished wrapped it up in several old gloves and a welding apron to get it to cool slowly. I tigged it with silicon bronze. Supposed to be a good material to weld to cast with and the melting point is far higher than an engine should see. The setup being preheated helped the rod to flow easily into the joint. I'm am very pleased with how this turned out and how easily welding/brazing this went.

I'm gonna say that for whatever gain you expect to get from this, you just killed a perfectly good Chinee turbine housing to get there. There is no way in hell I'd do that, but clearly is an opinion that doesnt matter one bit at this juncture.

Who the hell is doing this? And what is the supposed gain?

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 26, 2019

CarMichael Angelo said:
I'm gonna say that for whatever gain you expect to get from this, you just killed a perfectly good Chinee turbine housing to get there. There is no way in hell I'd do that, but clearly is an opinion that doesnt matter one bit at this juncture.

Who the hell is doing this? And what is the supposed gain?

First saw it on Sloppy Mechanics youTube channel and he has good results making big hp on stock ls blocks so I'll claim thats a good enough source for me. Packaging was my reason to do it, some say it can help with boost creep a problem I can't have with a non running car lol.

CarMichael Angelo · Sep 26, 2019

jeremythedestroyer said:
First saw it on Sloppy Mechanics youTube channel and he has good results making big hp on stock ls blocks so I'll claim thats a good enough source for me. Packaging was my reason to do it, some say it can help with boost creep a problem I can't have with a non running car lol.

So, your planning on trying to make the kind of power this guy is making on a LS on a " seasoned" 302?
The block will stop you hundreds of horsepower before you'll ever see the gain from what you just did. It's not the power getting to a 5.0 that's the problem, it's how much power the 5.0 will tolerate. Common consensus is you'll kill your stock block at the 500 hp level.
You could've put that waste gate on the rear bumpe for all thatll get you, .because a stock 5.0 isnt a 6.0 LS...it isnt even a 5.3 equivalent.
And as many LS engines that the sloppy mechanics have killed learning from their mistakes..you have one.

With stock e7 heads, a stock intake, and now this big assed turbo with a v band waste gate flange welded on the side.

Dude...for all the time and effort that you've spent figuring out how to out an AWD system under a fox mustang...please devote 15 minutes learning the boost tolerance of a stock block 5.0.

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 26, 2019

CarMichael Angelo said:
So, your planning on trying to make the kind of power this guy is making on a LS on a " seasoned" 302?
The block will stop you hundreds of horsepower before you'll ever see the gain from what you just did. It's not the power getting to a 5.0 that's the problem, it's how much power the 5.0 will tolerate. Common consensus is you'll kill your stock block at the 500 hp level.
You could've put that waste gate on the rear bumpe for all thatll get you, .because a stock 5.0 isnt a 6.0 LS...it isnt even a 5.3 equivalent.
And as many LS engines that the sloppy mechanics have killed learning from their mistakes..you have one.

With stock e7 heads, a stock intake, and now this big assed turbo with a v band waste gate flange welded on the side.

Dude...for all the time and effort that you've spent figuring out how to out an AWD system under a fox mustang...please devote 15 minutes learning the boost tolerance of a stock block 5.0.

I don't recall saying I'd make turbo ls power, just that I could make use of a wastegate like he does. I am fully aware of the power limitation this block has, as I said, I did this for packaging's sake. My dilemma was either roast plug wires, move the wg way too far from the y (to avoid the frame rail) or put it on the turbo and have all the space I could dream of. If I dreamed of gobs of power why would I have picked the injectors I did or ever imagine I could cool a charge on water/meth injection alone, shoot it would be the world's biggest pipe dream to expect ls power out of the transmission i've got.

CarMichael Angelo · Sep 26, 2019

jeremythedestroyer said:
I don't recall saying I'd make turbo ls power, just that I could make use of a wastegate like he does. I am fully aware of the power limitation this block has, as I said, I did this for packaging's sake. My dilemma was either roast plug wires, move the wg way too far from the y (to avoid the frame rail) or put it on the turbo and have all the space I could dream of. If I dreamed of gobs of power why would I have picked the injectors I did or ever imagine I could cool a charge on water/meth injection alone, shoot it would be the world's biggest pipe dream to expect ls power out of the transmission i've got.

Because you mentioned that the sloppy mechanics were doing it and...
"First saw it on Sloppy Mechanics youTube channel and he has good results making big hp on stock ls blocks"
Any outsider would figure that your motives for doing it was to try to do the same with your ford motor.

a91what · Sep 26, 2019

jeremythedestroyer · Sep 26, 2019

CarMichael Angelo said:
Because you mentioned the the sloppy mechanics were doing it and...
"First saw it on Sloppy Mechanics youTube channel and he has good results making big hp on stock ls blocks"
Any outsider would figure that your motives for doing the same was to try to do the same with your ford motor.

I see how that's confusing. I meant it as a testament to him having a clue as to what's he's doing (even knowing he keeps blasting rods out of his latest project). I've known from the get go 500 is doable but iffy

a91what · Sep 26, 2019

Good to see your still keeping at the project. I am keeping tabs, I still think its as cool as it gets!

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