281 HP & Stuck -- Suggestions please ??

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That Steeda 19 cam is way too small for ported TFS heads. Those heads must flow a ton and that cam probably can't get the air in that they need.

Jake

 

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swingline said:

Go with an off-road pipe instead of the cats. Also what type of intake are you running? If you are still running the stock POS, a port-matched TrickFlow Street or Edelbrock Performer would get you there.

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Hi,
Running a Cobra EFI Intake ported... so that won't do it. Want to stay legal so I will stay with the High Flow cats.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Steve

 

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GTJake said:

That Steeda 19 cam is way too small for ported TFS heads. Those heads must flow a ton and that cam probably can't get the air in that they need.

Jake

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Hi,
The cam is a possibility, how do you think a FTI would be in the drivability category compared to the Steeda 19??

Steve

 

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How much were your heads ported? Do you have any flow numbers? Your torque seems lower below 3000rpm then some other dyno graphs I've seen.

 

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That's the nice thing. It's custom, so it can be tailored to exactly what you want.

Jake

 

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With all of the work you have put into that car I would get it tuned. You should be able to pull close to 20hp alone with the right chip. They will also be able to get rid of the tip in retards and lower the fan temps. I am going to get mine from JMS. The only other thing I would consider is going with a larger mass air meter; the Pro M 80mm flows like crazy and you have the heads to support it!

Just curious, how many rounds on the engine? Have you checked the compression lately?

 

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zenboy99 said:

How much were your heads ported? Do you have any flow numbers? Your torque seems lower below 3000rpm then some other dyno graphs I've seen.

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The Heads and Intake are heavily ported.

Steve

 

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aluminum driveshaft and other weight losing items. Includeing a no cat H pipe.

 

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final5-0 said:

Are you saying that cause our cars are 94-95, that is some kind of reason for us not to be able to hit the 300 RWHP mark?

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I didnt say " not able to", but Ive been on here for 2 years and have seen very few H/C/I setups topping 300 at the wheels. The foxes seem to Dyno that number a bit easier. But to reiterate, a 280HP car running 12.5's is more fun to drive than a 300HP car running mid-high 13's
RC

 

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Put on some underdrive pullies and go with a FTI cam. Then get a chip burnt to tie it all together and you should be set.

 

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I agree about a good chip... Heck with my car i was able to get 208 rwhp out of it completely stock (107k miles) with a chip and have the dyno graphs on my website to prove it...

By the way how was your AFR when you got it tuned?

 

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swingline said:

Put on some underdrive pullies and go with a FTI cam. Then get a chip burnt to tie it all together and you should be set.

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He's got pullies!
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swingline said:

Put on some underdrive pullies and go with a FTI cam. Then get a chip burnt to tie it all together and you should be set.

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Had a chip burnt last dyno session. Sorry should have put it down.. Will edit

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also who tuned your car? There are just some tuners out there that make even the somewhat expereinced guys look bad...

I know that my tuner has talked about Jerry from Ford Chip has come in and pulled another 30 more horse out of tunes that my tuner had done and was satisfied with... I guess when you design the software you should really know your stuff though... Personally i can't wait to get my car retuned by Jerry when he does another dyno day near where i live... Hoping to hit real close to 500...

 

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moneypit94 said:

also who tuned your car? There are just some tuners out there that make even the somewhat expereinced guys look bad...

I know that my tuner has talked about Jerry from Ford Chip has come in and pulled another 30 more horse out of tunes that my tuner had done and was satisfied with... I guess when you design the software you should really know your stuff though... Personally i can't wait to get my car retuned by Jerry when he does another dyno day near where i live... Hoping to hit real close to 500...

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Hi,
Pauls Automotive Engr. in Blue Ash, Ohio. Mike tuned the car, Seems to know what he is doing...... My youngest son Tom, is General Manager there. They do a lot of Mustang work. My son has over 500rwhp in his '95 Tuned there of course. Who knows how the tune is until someon else looks at it, pretty expensive shopping trip..
Thinking that a custom cam, might be the answer, now money and time come into play. Not totally dissatisfied, the car runs strong and is fun... Must have the power fever,,,
Steve

 

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Well if you've already got a chip I don't know what else you could do. Other than a new cam just get better at driving. It won't give you more HP but it just proves the point that RC made.

 

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Hi,
Thanks guys for all the input, probably will go with a custom cam and maybe a tweeker, as with all things in life time and money now come into play.

Thanks again,
Steve

 

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To me it sounds like a velocity issue since you already have relatively large heads to begin with and they have been "heavily" ported. You need to either start turning some more RPM's (which will be limited by the cobra intake) and put in a matching cam to take advantage of the head flow, or add some cubes to the thing, or up the compression a good bit. All three will do wonders and should wake the sleeping giant under your hood. SOmething is definitely up with your track times versus your dyno numbers though. JFYI- I was running 98.55mph with the stock heads and cam in my 'vert. I'd expect nothing less than 102-103 from your car on an average run.

 

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That was exactly my thinking, I agree with Killer.

 

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Pops Fun, is your car an auto?