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78 Mach1

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Funny you say that. I have KYB shocks on the front.
 

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Well the surgery has begun. Here’s the oil pan in stock form.
 

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Here’s the first cuts.
 

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Testing for crank clearance with the new height I plan to use.
 

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Realized I’m not going to have down hill angle to ensure the oil all runs to the sump. Not positive how critical this is considering the amount of oil the pan holds. May not have mattered. I don’t know. But I like to be sure.
 

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So I cut out another section to create the down hill angle.
 

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I will tack it tomorrow. Test for crank clearance. Then test fit for steering rack clearance. I’m pretty sure this is as much as I want to cut down the pan. I probably have more room, but I want to make sure I have plenty of crank clearance. If I still have interference with steering rack, I’ll be raising the engine the rest of the amount needed.
 

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If everything fits and clears tomorrow. I’ll be filling in the large gap in the pan with some new sheet metal.
 
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Love to see progress!!
 
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Maybe you could whip up a crank scraper or built in partial windage tray
Oh screw it I just want to to see it in the CAR!
 

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Here’s the first cuts.
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Man, that's commitment. If you know you have the ability I guess it isn't a big deal but...
Waiting to see the finished product.
 

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I did this yesterday but haven’t had time to update until today. I tacked the pieces in place for the test fit. I mounted the pan to my spare Cleveland block to prevent any warpage from heat and to make the test fit easier.
 

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Moment of truth.
 

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Set in perfectly with zero clearance issues. The 2x4 was to reduce strain on the motor mounts since I don’t have a tranny in yet. Il’l get this pulled back out today and finish up the welds and patches. Then on to the harder issue of headers if anyone knows of a header solution, please let me know ASAP I know headman used to make a set but stopped years ago man I’d like to get my hands on a set
 
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I couldn’t resist temptation and wanted to test clearance of my planned induction system.
 
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Seriously jealous of the shop space. I've been stuck working out of a roughly 9x16 mudroom/3 seasons room that I've started construction on and my stuff is pretty cramped. The cars are relegated to the 30x40 pad I had poured a few years ago that I have to run everything back and forth to. The plan is to get my garage built there, maybe next year by the way things are going right now, then hopefully I'll be in something of the same boat. I'm itching to get to it!!




It looks like the Cleveland is gonna sit in there nicely as long as you can get the exhaust sorted! I never knew anyone who shoehorned one into a II but there was someone who put one in a Fairmont back in high school. He had the thing pretty cobbled together with a Chevy 10 bolt rear if I remember correctly. He brought it out one night and wanted to line them up just for s and s. I took him with my stock 302, but not by very much. I don't remember much about that car other than the rear tires looked REALLY odd as the 10 bolt was way too wide for the car. I think with a little bit of work and the right parts that that car would've been a little bit of a terror - kinda like what you've got started!
 
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. Then on to the harder issue of headers if anyone knows of a header solution, please let me know ASAP I know headman used to make a set but stopped years ago man I’d like to get my hands on a set
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For a Cleveland in a II not counting the fender well exit ones? All the ones I have seen for the 302 have 1 1/2" tubes which would be small for you motor. You might be better off getting a bigger tube set from for a older Stang and cut and move. You seem to have the skill. Love the Fox you got there.

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Seriously jealous of the shop space.
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Oh, me too. I have been working out of a two car garage my whole life and the one side either had another car or as is now, motorcycles. Can't even open both doors at one time. So it is like working in a one car garage.
 

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Trust me. I’ve had my days of working under tarps in the rain on a gravel driveway. I’m definitely lucky now to have a shop and all the right tools to do the work.
 
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Look! its in there!

Its really in there!

Yes!


I like the way the green Fox body has spilled all over the floor.
 

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Love the Fox you got there.
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Thanks. I built that 15 years ago for my son. He has taken great care of it ever since.

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I like the way the green Fox body has spilled all over the floor.
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Lol. I’m not sure what’s going on there. Some weird thing with the lighting and my phone. I promise the floor isn’t really green. Although it would look pretty cool.
 
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