351 HCI Info

[OrangeMustangGt]

Ok guys im asking for a bit of info.
Here is what i got. First of all, i have a fresh 351 motor out of a 89'ford bronco that is recently rebuilt 30,000 miles ago. I will be pulling it very soon, and if you need bronco parts pm me, i am parting it out. Anyway, here is what i want to do.
Basically i want to keep the bottom end stock. meaning no stroker kits for now. I just want 351 inch. Can anyone provide me with some good combos that have worked well for a motor such as Heads, Cam, Intake wise. Also just for giggles, what would that motor push, do you think will my gt40p heads, crane 3041, and Explorer intake? But really i want to build it up right. Tell me what you think!

 

[final5-0]

A good rule of thumb is not to put 302 cubic inch size parts on a motor that is 50 cubic inches larger. If you do that, you will only have its potential and not the power it is capable of.

Later
Grady

 

[AznStanger3v]

those parts are junk for you 351. Take your time on this build. Let it marinate for a while and get the funds. First buy some 225s, and port the hell out of them.

 

[Grn92LX]

Victor jr heads, victor 5.8 or TFS R manifold, 1 3/4" longtubes, 3" exhaust, 10.5:1 compresssion, link bar lifters to run a good roller cam and have jay allen or ed curtis do the camshaft. If your serious about this and want to use the vic jr heads, I have a friend that sells these heads through his job for like $250 less than what summit wants.

You put that gt40 crap on and you WON'T be happy unless slow is your goal then you will be

 

[OrangeMustangGt]

Thanks for the replys! I was just asking about the 302 parts just for what if. I DO plan on doing it up right. I will def. use a custom roller cam, and get the converson lifters. So, one says AFR and one says Victor jr's. I DID see that yellow car in the 10's with a 347 stroker and those heads and intake. Only difference is that i wont have compression so high. What compression do you think ill have with a stock bottom end and say those heads. Also, im torn weather its worth it to put it into the stang or the bronco i have with a 5.0. What power potential would a good, built 351 like said above have. Also, my car is basically a street car.

 

[final5-0]

I will def. use a custom roller cam, and get the converson lifters.

Kyle

About those conversion lifters.

I remember hearing someone, I think it might have been Ed C saying those can cause probs of some kind.

I don't remember anymore than that but when I saw those words a little red flag popped up. You might want to do some research about them.

Another thing to consider is a hydro FT cam does have the ability to make a pretty good bit of power. I'd talk to one of those cam gurus about it.

Later
Grady

 

[OrangeMustangGt]

grady, thanks
You do make a good point, if i get a custom cam they cam make a good non roller style. The reason i was thinking hyd roller was there is much more selection for cams.
Now, what do you think about H/c/i....does those victor jr parts sound good to you.....do i have any other options that will make power, and what do you think i could make with this? see i am debating using my money to build this motor of a DIY single turbo kit.

 

[final5-0]

grady, thanks
You do make a good point, if i get a custom cam they cam make a good non roller style. The reason i was thinking hyd roller was there is much more selection for cams.
Now, what do you think about H/c/i....does those victor jr parts sound good to you.....do i have any other options that will make power, and what do you think i could make with this? see i am debating using my money to build this motor of a DIY single turbo kit.

Kyle

I've not done enough research on using a stock block windsor to feel I could be of help to you and this is why. My thoughts about using the windsor motor are that if I go that route the ci size will be in the 4xx range cause to put the larger motor in our cars is such a hassle & expense.

Why not save the motor conversion money and the extra trouble and just drop in a 347 in if 350 ci power is what you want?

If you can make up your mind at this point in time about going with the turbo route it would save you time & money and here is why.

You can make 5.0 block splitting power with a diy turbo with not too much difficulty with a stock 5.0 and that is a fact. You got some good 5.0 parts that will work great which is all the better.

Why go through the windsor conversion hassle & expense if you can get all or more power than you can use for a street car?

I know you got the windsor and all but.......... if you are seriously thinking about the diy turbo thing know this.........that it is the kind of project that YOU have to fab up everything and YOU have to deal with any and all issues that arise and believe you me.......... issues will arise, lol.

After you get your home made turbo kit all together then there is the issue of tuning it and that is NOT something to take lightly as Zach can tell you. I think Zach did a great job of getting it all together but I suspect he was not aware of the importance of making sure things were safe and his outcome is an example to prove that power adders are WAY LESS forgiving of mistakes with their tune than na combos. Again, YOU have to deal with tuning that beast, lol.

Im trying to point out that you got enough issues to get sorted out with the diy turbo and don't jack around with stuff like..............

trying to convert your car for a larger motor
large cam that drives your pcm nuts
heads you don't need

Just my .02 based on what you said above.

Kyle, you gotta know I've thought about every way possible to get to the big power for the least money and hassle myself because ...........................
My 95 don't FEEL fast no more

I've narrowed my decision down to either 347 or 2200 KB

Later
Grady

 

[SuperDust22]

Don't just think you are going to drop a 351 in and go. Do you have a parts list what what you need? A really a 351 is pointless to put in if you are not going to stroke it. A 302 will just as much power as that 351 with less money.

Dustin

 

[OrangeMustangGt]

ok guys good point. Maby i will put the 351 im my bronco and build a turbo kit....i bet i will make more power with a turbo kit then with a 351.ok guys thanks

 

[1slow95]

Kyle

About those conversion lifters.

I remember hearing someone, I think it might have been Ed C saying those can cause probs of some kind.

I don't remember anymore than that but when I saw those words a little red flag popped up. You might want to do some research about them.

Another thing to consider is a hydro FT cam does have the ability to make a pretty good bit of power. I'd talk to one of those cam gurus about it.

Later
Grady

The hyd. link bar lifters are what Ed C recommends for non-rollor blocks. You're thinking of the spider hold down conversion to run standard hyd. lifters on a non-roller block. This requires you to run a smaller base circle cam, which is not good.

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