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351w swap in a 76 cobra ll?

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crazycatxr7

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what has to be done for a 351w swap, I came across hedman headers that i guess is made specifically for this swap,i don't know if they will work, i have a c4 trans in there right now,,and those headers aren't cheap there like $700.
 

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Swapping in a 351w isn't all that hard, if you use the factory exhaust manifolds. The two different headers available for the swap involve some work. I think (not 100% sure) that the Hedman's require the motor to be repositioned by using a plate. Another brand requires a battery relocation and some modification to the fender wells.
Also, depending on the intake/carb setup you go with, cutting the hood for clearance may be needed. If you go with a low rise intake, you can manage it without cutting.
Other than that, it's a drop in and go. No changes needed to fit the radiator, shroud, starter, etc. I did buy a bracket to adapt the 302 power steering bracket to the 351, but only because I wanted something that looked better than the hacked piece that was in there.
Good luck.
 
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swap

the headers that hedman offer, i'm pretty sure they go right underneath everything, so from the heads straight down, so it can clear, cuz i guess they cant fit through where the tranny is..and how does that whole motor plate thing work..
 
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The 302 oil pan will not fit the 351w, so the oil pan for the 351w must be used and modified to clear the rack and pinoin steering.
 

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what kind of headers are those,, will they clear my c4,,
 

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COBRAIIW said:
The 302 oil pan will not fit the 351w, so the oil pan for the 351w must be used and modified to clear the rack and pinoin steering.
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You're absolutely right, I totally spaced that. I had a 351w pan customized with a baffled 7 qt. deep sump. Cost a bit, but looks and works great.

I still have the original pan off my 351w if somebody wants it. Ready to go to work in any Mustang II with a 351w. It is NOT pretty, but it never leaked. It's basically the original Mustang II 302 lower part, welded to a 351w upper pan rail, and then beat on to make it fit. The previous owner did a lot of redneck engineering...
If anyone can use it, $20 plus shipping and the pickup is included.
 
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so what do u have to do get a 351w pan and take it to a shop and have a modified to fit cuz of the steering rack,
 
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The headers I used are old Blackjacks that came with the car.
The oil pan I modified myself. I cut out the section that wouldn't clear the steering, and welded a section in that did.
 

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crazycatxr7 said:
so what do u have to do get a 351w pan and take it to a shop and have a modified to fit cuz of the steering rack,
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That would be really expensive. Even with my new custom pan, after they mocked it up I brought it home and bolted it to the motor. It needed a bit more massaging to clear the crank. Then I dropped the motor in the car, and it needed more clearancing to clear the rack. I went through that process twice, but in the end if fit like a glove.
 
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351W Swap

I'm new to this website, so bare with me.

I've done this swap in 1980 Mercury Bobcat.
Headers - Hedman 85601
Motor Plate - Hedman 56066
Tatol Performance - F351 Modified Oil Pan/Oil Pump Pickup

I can send you pics.
E-mail at BIGRED77@q.com for your addy
 
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351 Swap

I do have a extra oil pan and oil pump pickup for the swap,
Form Tolal Performance
 
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Steel Steeds said:
Swapping in a 351w isn't all that hard, if you use the factory exhaust manifolds. The two different headers available for the swap involve some work. I think (not 100% sure) that the Hedman's require the motor to be repositioned by using a plate. Another brand requires a battery relocation and some modification to the fender wells.
Also, depending on the intake/carb setup you go with, cutting the hood for clearance may be needed. If you go with a low rise intake, you can manage it without cutting.
Other than that, it's a drop in and go. No changes needed to fit the radiator, shroud, starter, etc. I did buy a bracket to adapt the 302 power steering bracket to the 351, but only because I wanted something that looked better than the hacked piece that was in there.
Good luck.
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what motor mounts?
 
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