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429MII · Apr 20, 2019

I need the torque for the nuts on the upper a-arm shaft on the outside of where the bushings are. So far no manual seems to give this measurement from what I can find. I could go by the generic torque for the size of bolt I guess but I thought there would be a figure for this since people do replace upper control arm bushings

429MII · Apr 20, 2019

2Blue2 said:
The way I read it is 'Upper arm AND inner shaft to body'

Yeah I think that is the t-bolts that go through the shaft into the hat to hold the shaft to the body. Unless you mean they are grouping both measurements together?

429MII · Apr 20, 2019

That might be right. It seems like the right range for the bolt nut and shaft size.

429MII · Apr 20, 2019

thanks!

2Blue2 · Apr 20, 2019

429MII said:
cut a 1/2 coil out of the spring...

Been dreaming of drop spindles , they are fairly cheap and some big brake(11 inch ) kits with it included.

429MII · Apr 20, 2019

Yeah I considered those too. Thanks to hot rodders, mustang II front suspension stuff is pretty reasonable. In hindsight for the price I should have just got tubular upper a arms instead of rebuilding the stockers, but too late now...
Considered the big brakes too, but they move the track width out and I didn't want to do that with the wheels I'm running.

2Blue2 · Apr 20, 2019

429MII said:
they move the track width out

Did not know that. Learning new stuff all the time.

429MII · Apr 20, 2019

If you are doing the big brakes AND tubular arms I think you can buy the 5/8 narrow upper and lower arms to compensate for the rotor increasing track width.

My car has 11 x 2.5 " rear drums so I figured the 9" front brake should be more than adequate.. also since the net weight of my car will be less than stock, and distributed more to the rear.

I wanted the retro aluminum slot wheels in 14" on the front, so clearance became an issue for me as well. I believe you need at least15" wheels to clear the big brake callipers if i am not mistaken.

429MII · Apr 20, 2019

Well 1/2 a coil equates to only 1/2" drop apparently on my car, so i will take a full coil out of the other side because it is next, then come back and remove the other 1/2 a coil from the drivers side.

429MII · Apr 20, 2019

here is pic of spindle assembled

2Blue2 · Apr 20, 2019

It does look good!

LILCBRA · Apr 21, 2019

I ended up cutting about 1-1/2 from mine, then had to remove the inner fender liners and "adjust" the body seam inside the well.

2Blue2 · Apr 21, 2019

LILCBRA said:
ended up cutting about 1-1/2 from mine, then had to remove the inner fender liners and "adjust" the body seam inside the well.

Ohh! The secrets of being low.

2Blue2 · Apr 22, 2019

I've been imagining a Boss motif for your car.
I know its early for picking curtains and paint already but it could work.....

Sorry old school photo shop with scissors and tape....well you get the idea.

Door line doesn't work good

429MII · Apr 22, 2019

interesting concept. I will have to play with that. I like the blacked out headlight area and hood with the white, and some kind of stripe on the side

429MII · Apr 27, 2019

I have a new dilemma. I can't decide whether to basically leave the body stock, or customize with chrome bumpers and different tail lights and front end treatment etc. I am torn between not messing with a pretty clean body, and also detracting from the engine and trans mods, or going the whole deal and modding it all. I have some pretty tasteful ideas in mind, but once i do it there is pretty much no return.

So
plan 1
is to leave the body stock except for fibreglass hood and mid tuck bumpers along with stock front and rear spoilers.

Plan 2
is to do the same as plan 1 but add 70 torino taillights, flatten the back panel and get rid of the licence plate recess, fill in the marker lights and replace with 69 camaro markers all around, section a rear bumper off a 67 camaro on the back and use a lower valence off a 70 maverick, Use a modified 74 nose piece and a sectioned 1965 mustang front bumper with a 70 maverick front valence and a modified 69 mustang front spoiler.

What is the opinions out there on body mods? am I cheapening the result? There is something to be said for the stock look carrying a lot of power aka Sudden Death,
Or, help the Mustang II with some areas of obvious improvement aka bumpers nose and taillights that scream for re=design.

thoughts?

LILCBRA · Apr 27, 2019

My personal opinion would be to go with plan A, but it would be interesting to see the mash up of plan B. I think Plan A will actually have more impact given what it's gonna have under the hood. Going all out with modifications can sometimes be a distraction. Again, it's all my personal opinion....

2Blue2 · Apr 27, 2019

429MII said:
bumpers nose and taillights that scream for re=design.

The era of first gen urethane bumpers and new safety standards were ugly.
The 73 mustang urethanes were good looking compared to the 74s
The Mutt2 still wasn't as bad as the Lambo bumpers

i'm also plan A guy but some of the ideas you have mentioned really excite me.
Maverick valences? Heil ya what a neat idea.
Chrome bumpers, Camero or otherwise (Maverick again maybe)...need other chrome to help support the look.

Full Custom? or Street racer? Pick one not both.
This bodes r so rare out and about, that extensive mods will leave the bulk of the population asking 'what is it?'
I feel Stockish with 429 will have the highest resale value(not that it matters) and be slightly cooler.

Easy to get lost in the more and more mods, So many great ideas, but draw a line! Do a 1.0 with a possible 2.0 later.

Just Get it put together!
I want to see smoky burnouts!

LILCBRA said:
Again, it's all my personal opinion....

Me2
Its got to make you happy first.

429MII · Apr 27, 2019

Good points. Probably why i haven't started cutting it up. I will stick to plan A for this build I think. If I wasn't doing extensive drivetrain mods I'm thinking plan B would be cool.
The Maverick front and rear valences and bumpers is one I've eyed up for a long time. I think they would work without too much trouble, and they are close in size. Also the maverick went through the era but started earlier so It went from small bumpers to battering rams too, so kind of makes me think the Mustang II if it had started life in say 1970, would have had the same evolution.
I don't really mind the mustang II back bumper so much as I kinda hate the front bumper, but i can reshape the originals with a mid tuck and a minor section to look better.

I also never liked the practice (as on the rear of the Mustang II) of eliminating a valence by making a bumper bigger. The rear of a MII looks unfinished when viewed straight on because of the lack of a rear valence. Makes it sort of pick-up truck architecture.

Also the side markers are just plain weird on a Mustang II. What were they thinking?? They don't even fit. Its like ..oh..we forgot to build markers for this thing..hey Joe, grab those huge-ass lincoln side markers and splice those on there that will do..

Manoah · Apr 27, 2019

im going plan A myself, but its a pretty common theme here.

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