500rwhp how-to write-up w/ sq-trim

DBMSTNG · Mar 2, 2008

hotmustang331 said:
Tim has made 600RWHP with the stock heads, but using his cams. Ofcourse it had a built block. (Im pretty sure it was an S trim....but i could be wrong)

almost every 2V uses "stock" heads. what i was referring to is that he needs ported heads. Tim's 600rwhp S trim car had ported heads.

Chris00GT · Mar 2, 2008

Ahh 500rwhp is easy...shoot for 600rwhp

DBMSTNG · Mar 2, 2008

Gearbanger 101 said:
The S(Q)-Trim will move enough volume through the stock heads with the stock cams to meed the air demands needed for 500rwhp. You just gotta spin em hard and keep the air charge cool.

can you show me 1? all the 500+rwhp S trim 2V 4.6L's i've seen have at least blower cams.

SaleenGT2001 · Mar 2, 2008

Chris00GT said:
Ahh 500rwhp is easy...shoot for 600rwhp

i think i'll give it a try

spoc8hi · Mar 2, 2008

for that fmic kit, did you have to reclock your vortech to blow downwards or will you try to squeeze the pipe around it?

CTGrey02 · Mar 2, 2008

Which injectors are you planning on using? 42's are going to be pushing it at that HP level. Seen it done, before, but...

04YELLOWGT · Mar 2, 2008

spoc8hi said:
for that fmic kit, did you have to reclock your vortech to blow downwards or will you try to squeeze the pipe around it?

You reclock the blower.

jivepepper · Mar 2, 2008

Here's my proven formula

MMR 900 Shortblock
V1 S-Trim
Houston Performance 292s Cams
Stock Heads/Valve springs/ Intake
Professional Products 75mm TB/plenum
Full Mac Exhaust LT's, H-Pipe, Catback
AFM Powerpipe
2.8" RR 6-Rib Pulley
DIY AA Intercooler
42lb Injectors
SCT 2400 90MM MAF
SCT Chip
Cobra Tank/Pumps
KB 40 Amp BAP

I was breaking up a little on top and made 515. My tuner said if I fixed that he expected 530-540. I fixed it, and it did feel smoother/stronger. You can do it with a stock shortblock but I wouldn't

Gearbanger 101 · Mar 2, 2008

DBMSTNG said:
can you show me 1? all the 500+rwhp S trim 2V 4.6L's i've seen have at least blower cams.

Most of the ones I'm seeing with cams are putting down well over 500RWHP. Into the 540-560 range in a lot of cases, so it's not inconceivable to think that you'd come in right around 490-500hp without them. I admit, you'll be pushing the S-Trim past its efficiency range, but from what I've seen as long as you're keeping the ACT's under control, it isn't unfathomable.

It would be easier to do with a T-Trim or a Novi 2000 though, I admit. But, you try to work with what you've got.

stanggt00 · Mar 12, 2008

ok going to keep it going some changes i had to make to parts line up

just ordered and will take pictures of once they get here :

patriot stg 3 heads (1500.00) shipped

mmr 900 shortblock (3600.00) shipped (3 week turn around)
w/side bolts,arp main studs,upgraded oil pump,arp rod bolts

head change kit (117.00) shipped

new motor mounts and tranny mounts (170.00) shipped

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will order in the next 3 weeks

cams comp stg3 blower cams or mph blower cams (600.00)
flywheel 8-bolt alum. (370.00)
upr upr k-member kit (700.00)

and a may need comp springs not sure if patriot springs will work with stg3 cams

CobraRed_96_GT · Mar 12, 2008

I'd go ARP head studs too

stanggt00 · Mar 19, 2008

ok i ordered most of the parts i will need for my goal

looks like i am going with the following parts so wish me luck

mmr900 shortblock
patriot stg2 heads ------( was told that stg3's will not work with motor if its not .020 overbore )
comp valve springs
mph blower cams
alum flywheel 8-bolt

head change kit
arp head studs

also going with cam sprockets
and a new timing cover
all the timing parts like chain and tensioner i will move over from my stock motor

i think every thing is covered as far as putting the motor together

tools i am using spring compressor tool,fuel disconnect tools and timing tool to make sure i get the timing dead on

going to hold off on the k-member kit atm
so i am now just waiting on everything to get here

stanggt00 · Apr 20, 2008

ok still rolling with this build got :

mmr 900 shortblock /with upgraded oil pump/arp side bolts/arp head studs
mph blower cams w/comp valve springs
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still waiting on thr to ship my patriot heads if i dont get them by next week i will cancel my order and look at mph or foxlake heads

stanggt00 · Apr 20, 2008

its head tring to work on you car when your working long hours at your job and you dont have a garage

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i sure as hell cant drop the tran and pull the motor in front of my house on the street so stripping the motor down as much as i can before i have it towed any ways i still need to get to the timing componets to transfer them to the new motor

prblem i cant get the dam crank pull bolt off the car has been sitting for months but when i go to turn the bolt even in gear the dam car starts to roll

deftsound · Apr 20, 2008

i think im going to build my 2v as well...you hardly see any built 2v's on the street

stanggt00 · Apr 20, 2008

ya this car will be a daily driven (if gas allows) street car full interior//ac/ect
i even have a 12" woofer in the trunk and i will be even adding sound damp material to the doors,trunk and floor of the car

04GTMustang · Apr 20, 2008

deftsound said:
i think im going to build my 2v as well...you hardly see any built 2v's on the street

yea man im def building mine but its going to be a nitrous car. in the end i want it turning 10s on spray probably a 300 shot of the juice so thats my goal.

Good luck on the build man

hotmustang331 · Apr 20, 2008

My way was simple too. Twin T-16 turbos, VT stg 1 N/A Cams, O/R X pipe with magnaflows, plenum/TB, and 11.9PSI. (And ofcourse other supporting mods listed)
That netted me 550RWHP on a STOCK 04 GT shortblock. (+ windage trey)

Easy as pie

Dang I wish I could have pushed her further...I was going to be saying hello to 600 before not too long

doubleomustang · May 17, 2008

I to am in the process of building a 2v. what i have so far is not much. i just bought a mmr 800 with all the upgrades other than the aluminum or 302 upgrade. i have a vortech v2 sq blower. i have a lightning 90mm maf and 42# injectors. i was planning on getting stage 2 patriot heads with some blower cams...maybe comp cams. i was wanting to make 500-550 hp on the motor not to the wheels. i dont know what that comes out to be at the wheels im running an auto. will the MAF and 42# injectors reach this mark. if not what kind of power should i look for on this setup. i want to make as much as i can with these items until i can afford to upgrade. im also using a focus svt pump. i dont want to push it to the limit as i am rebuilding due to a blown motor after the SC install. so like i said i want to make as much as i can for now and ill upgrade the fuel system and MAF later. what else will i need. like what size pulley. im planning on a diy AA intercooler as well. specific name brands and part numbers would be great when referencing parts such as torque converters and flywheels. ANY help at all would be great as i am an ammature mechanic and doing most all the work myself.

the98stang · May 17, 2008

BennyBlown2v said:
That's my setup on stock block

2.8 with six rib here

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