65mm or 70mm tb

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slytherin

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got some xtra cash over the weekend. need to know is a 70mmtb to big for my mods or just right or should i go with a 65mm. thanks for the input.

 

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With the mods you have 70mm is fine.

Jake

 

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I think that either will give nearly identical results (with your current mods). I chose the 65 because the FRPP 65 TB included a new TP sensor and a new ISC soleniod.

Rick

 

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didn't know the frpp came with new tp and isc thats good to know. thanks guys.

 

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65mm would be perfect for your setup. The only way I'd go with a 70mm is if you have a blower or nitrous planned in the near future... Even then a 65mm would still be a good size. And yes, go with the FRPP because like mentioned, it does come with new electronics.

 

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65 is ideal, I echo 1105's sentiments

 

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ok you guys are swaying me towards the 65mm. hey 1105 we are close in setup but i don't see a maf listed what would you go with. thanks

 

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I was told even with the turbo, I still don't need anything larger than a 65mm.


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thanks for the info guys i think i'll be ordering a 65mm. thanks again.

 

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5.0 from 95 said:

I was told even with the turbo, I still don't need anything larger than a 65mm.


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You couldn't have been told anymore wrong. Must have been an internet racer who gave you that 100% wrong advice.

Go 70mm minimum for your car, slytherin. Im doing a 75mm when I get the cash as recommended by ed curtis Goal is to go faster not take internet racers advice.

 

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definitly go 65 - first hand experience.....

 

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Grn92LX said:

You couldn't have been told anymore wrong. Must have been an internet racer who gave you that 100% wrong advice.

Go 70mm minimum for your car, slytherin. Im doing a 75mm when I get the cash as recommended by ed curtis Goal is to go faster not take internet racers advice.

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You know, me and you don't agree that much, but you couldn't have said it any better. I don't chime in these opinion type polls because most of the time my opinion and experience happens to be contrary to the popular belief.

Joe

 

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You know, me and you don't agree that much, but you couldn't have said it any better. I don't chime in these opinion type polls because most of the time my opinion and experience happens to be contrary to the popular belief.

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Yeah, we have different opinions i've noticed. Thanks for agreeing with me though, these TB size posts can get very heated soemtimes. Sad part is, the popular belief is just a bunch of non-racing internet racers who have no hands on experience what-so-ever. I'll say it again, i'd do a 70 or 75mm for that car. I'll take what Ed C recommends to me over what a 17 year old internet racer "recommends"

Mike

 

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I'd like to see the exact same car run with a 65mm tb a few times, then a 70mm tb a few times... My guess is that the times wouldnt be that far off for it to really matter. I'm going to be switching to a fox 70mm TB sometime, but there are a lot on here running good times with a 65mm. I believe Paul is running a 65mm and is in the low 12's N/A. Go with the 70mm... It couldnt hurt.

 

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wasnt it Accufab that wont release a aftermarket TB for our cars because during testing they couldnt make a design that actual gained power over the stocker??....

Anthony

 

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Now I gotta say that I respect all opinions here, but i think that MM&FF or 5.0 performed a dyno shoot out testing different sized TB's. Their results may prove siginificant in your search for a proper TB. If I remember correctly the dyno numbers showed that on a NA car, a larger TB (read 75mm) netted more power in their shoot out than 65 and 70mm's.

However, when they dynoed a supercharged 302 the results showed that more power was gained from using a 65mm TB.

I dont know all too much about air velocity yet, but I am learning and these results seem to make sense. A wide straight straw like tube for NA, a small bottle neck before the intake which increases air velocity (somehow) for forced induction.
I hate to bring on a dragged out discussion, but I'm sure I remember reading about this test. (It was published a few years ago though) I wish I could prove it but I am studying in Australia until July.

Fawcett
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VIPERn94Five-0

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what was done to the car???...im just curious, not trying to attack you....im just wondering how wild or mild the motor was....


Anthony

 

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VIPERn94Five-0 said:

wasnt it Accufab that wont release a aftermarket TB for our cars because during testing they couldnt make a design that actual gained power over the stocker??....

Anthony

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Thats correct. I remeber someone posting an email from Accufab saying they wouldnt make TB's for the 94/95's because they couldnt get any power gains and they wouldnt sell a product that doesnt produce gains... Not sure if it was for all sizes or just a few.

 

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my tb seemed to work just fine for me

elsbrock bbk 70 and 70 elbow

i am about to sell them both......

 

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I called dynotec they have a mobile dyno and shop with a rep from roush that comes in twice a month to do dyno tunes and custom chip burns for $450 out the door. the guy from the shop said i should run 70-75mm maf and 70mm tb. so i may wait to do both parts and do the dyno tune & chip.