97 GT Engine Heat

97WhitePonyGT

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So recently, I've had some problems with my 1997 Mustang GT. Car was getting towards the end of "A" in "Normal" on the temp gauge. So I went ahead and check coolant levels, which were where they were supposed to be, and checked that the electric fan comes on, which it does.
Long story short, I replaced the radiator because it wasn't dispersing heat like it should and for the hell of it put a 180 thermostat in.

So even after a new radiator and 180 thermostat the car still runs at 214 degrees. It starts off great for a while and runs below middle like it should but then occasionally will go from below middle and keep going up.

From what I've seen there is no visible leaking from the heads if there was a head gasket leak, coolant levels are good, thermostat is new, radiator is new, cooling fan operates as it should, and the heater core is not clogged.

Any ideas as to what it could be?
 
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I have helped more than one person with an apparent over heating problem that turned out to be a system voltage problem. WHY? Because the dash temperature gauge is calibrated to system voltage. IF system voltage is low, this will make the dash gauge read high. This creates a situation where the motor isn't actually overheating but the dash says otherwise.

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FWIIW, 214 is NOT over heating.

Recommend cross checking the T-stat cover with an infrared scanning thermometer. Then you will know for certain IF the motor is over heating or not. This will help you to focus the trouble shooting efforts. After all, does it make sense to look for a problem in the cooling system IF the motor isn't really overheating?

Also, don't make the mistake of trying to solve an overheating issue by installing a lower degree T-stat. IF the radiator can't keep up, THEN a cooler T-stat won't fix the issue. In addition the cooler T-stat can cause issues with the PCM and fan control because the PCM will attempt warm up the motor by doing things like staying in open loop longer and changing the way that the cooling fans are cycled. Best to stick to the factory recommended 192 degree T-stat.

Here's some information on an affordable ODB2 scanner. This will help as it will provide what the PCM "thinks" the ECT value is. Further with this scanner's bi-directional capabilities it possible to easily trouble shoot cooling fan problems by "commanding" the low speed and and speed fan to run while verifying that the fans actually run. This is important to confirm the fans actually work on BOTH speeds.

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Solution was found:
I noticed some coolant running from the lower radiator hose, noticed a rather large pile after about 20 minutes of it being parked. The lower radiator hose had a crack and was not holding pressure and was leaking coolant. Temperature has been staying down ever since.