Airbag code 64 and 24 HELP

[Slow5.0]

Today i got home from work and everything was fine untill a few hours later i was tryin get outside and cruise litle bit when i saw Airbag light blinks
I have two different codes one with key on engine not runing and one while i engine runing
Code 64 (key on engine not runing) blinks 64 64 64 64 64 and than sayed on
Code 24 (engine runing) 24 24 24 24 24 and then stayed one whole time

I never had problems with this and i never hit something so i didn't mess up with sensors (behind front bumper)

 

[HISSIN50]

Ernan, I am still figuring this junk out too. Here is some stuff to read about your codes (if I understood the codes and system better, I would try to help you figure out what the issues are).

Good luck Ernan.

 

[Methodical]

Today i got home from work and everything was fine untill a few hours later i was tryin get outside and cruise litle bit when i saw Airbag light blinks
I have two different codes one with key on engine not runing and one while i engine runing
Code 64 (key on engine not runing) blinks 64 64 64 64 64 and than sayed on
Code 24 (engine runing) 24 24 24 24 24 and then stayed one whole time

I never had problems with this and i never hit something so i didn't mess up with sensors (behind front bumper)

According to the code it sounds like your Diagnostic Module maybe gone. I got a DTC 12 code - lost batter feed. I think it's because my battery was bad. However, I ordered the Rotunda Airbag Simulator tool in order to test the airbag system. These allow you to test the system without using the airbags as lab rats other words you can disconnect the airbags and plug these connectors in their place to test the system. This prevents the airbags from possibly deploying. Rotunda's number is 800.768.8632 P/N 105-R00013 and costs only $38 a pair. I took the safe road. I don't want to destroy those airbags. Also, the Mustang service manual has specific steps to test the airbags, i.e. deactivate system and reactivate system. Look at the link in the above post and you will loads of info. Take care and good luck. Peace

 

[Slow5.0]

Yesterday i cone back from job and i saw codes 64 and 24 are gone but now i have code 12, i don't know how this is happen, after i find new code 12 i tryed clear like on that website said but can't do it, its just keep blinking and i have no bep noise, BTW i have no that bep when door is open, Stang come like that when i bought

 

[CManT1914]

HISSIN beat me to the link. That has some very useful information. I got code 52 or something like that a month ago, meaning intermittent power failure to the air bag pcm or something like that. I had accidentally pulled the air bag fuse while trying to wire my radar detector, lol. Still never have fixed it though.

 

[HISSIN50]

HISSIN beat me to the link. That has some very useful information. I got code 52 or something like that a month ago, meaning intermittent power failure to the air bag pcm or something like that. I had accidentally pulled the air bag fuse while trying to wire my radar detector, lol. Still never have fixed it though.

It is an appropriately named site, huh.

I also have a code I need to clear. it looks like one can clear some codes by grounding that 3? wire connector (in the glove box?). I did not really read up yet, nor could i find the connector. Dont turn your key on if you have removed a front impact sensor.

does clearing the capacitors in the air bag puter clear codes? (like how we clear the KAM)?

 

[CManT1914]

It is an appropriately named site, huh.

I also have a code I need to clear. it looks like one can clear some codes by grounding that 3? wire connector (in the glove box?). I did not really read up yet, nor could i find the connector. Dont turn your key on if you have removed a front impact sensor.

does clearing the capacitors in the air bag puter clear codes? (like how we clear the KAM)?

You can clear the air bag codes ONLY if they are intermittent codes. So like for me, since I had code 52 (intermittent or repaired lost battery feed) I could clear it, since the problem was not currently present. A hard fault code, like code 12 (lost battery feed, same thing as 52, only 12 means the problem is current) can not be reset. The plug you need is actually UNDER the glovebox, not inside like the picture on that website shows. Look under the glovebox, it's a little gray connector with only two leads inside, one on each side with a blank spot in the middle. Just turn the key on, let the code flash once, then while it's still flashing jump those two wires together and hold like that for 5 or 6 seconds. Then the air bag pcm will beep like 5 times, and you can let go. Now your air bag computer is reset, and no more air bag light, assuming it was an intermittent code (all codes 52 and above are intermittent). Hope this helps.

 

[HISSIN50]

Chris, Thanks so much for the info! I will check to see if code 85 is intermittant and try that out. Thanks again.

 

[CManT1914]

Chris, Thanks so much for the info! I will check to see if code 85 is intermittant and try that out. Thanks again.

No problem, here's code 82: Intermittent or Repaired LH Radiator Primary Crash Sensor Feed/Return Circuit Open

Looks like you can clear it. Good luck, lemme know if you need more info.

 

[Slow5.0]

CManT1914 i tryed again but when i connect jumer wire on that gray connector airbag light just keep blinking and i never heard airbad module beeps, i think thats because i don't have that beep when i open door with key still ingnition (because prewious owner removed or meybe its broken for some reason)

 

[CManT1914]

CManT1914 i tryed again but when i connect jumer wire on that gray connector airbag light just keep blinking and i never heard airbad module beeps, i think thats because i don't have that beep when i open door with key still ingnition (because prewious owner removed or meybe its broken for some reason)

Hey Ernan, you gotta jump both terminals inside the plug. There are only two, (3 spots, but only 2 terminals). Just use the jumper wire to connect both terminals to each other, and you gotta hold it for like 5 or 6 seconds, then the air bag computer will beep a few times, then you can let go. Make sure the air bag light flashes it's code one full time before you do this though. Lemme know if you need more help.

 

[Slow5.0]

I think reason for code 12 was blown fuse #4 under steering wheel, now i replace that fuse and code 12 is gone but i got new code 13

 

[CManT1914]

Ernan, sounds like the wiring harness under the steering column may have a short in it somewhere, driver or passenger side. Here's what the site said to do:

DTC 13: AIR BAG CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND

13-1 UNDERSTAND FUNCTION

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* Cycle the ignition switch to OFF and then to RUN and confirm that DTC 13 is flashing on the air bag indicator.
* Read the normal operation description for DTC 13.
* Examine the diagnostic trouble code schematic.
* Is the diagnostic trouble code operation well understood?

Yes GO to «13-2».

NOTE: This is a hard fault. The fault condition may not be cleared until it is serviced and flashes out as a DTC 53. Under normal circumstances a DTC 12 will have just been serviced.

No RE-EXAMINE appropriate descriptions and schematics. Failure to understand air bag system functions will result in needless replacement of system components and repeat service.

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DTC 13: AIR BAG CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND

13-2 CHECK FOR SHORTED AIR BAG(S)

o Deactivate system. Carefully disconnect air bags during deactivation.

o Turn ignition switch from OFF to RUN.

o Is DTC 13 still flashing?

Yes GO to «13-3».

No GO to «13-7».



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DTC 13: AIR BAG CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND

13-3 CHECK DRIVER CIRCUIT FOR SHORTS

o Disconnect air bag diagnostic monitor.

o Examine wiring and connector where air bag sliding contact mates to main vehicle harness underneath steering column.

o Check for pinched and/or chafed wires.

o Measure resistance between air bag diagnostic monitor harness connector Pin 2 (Circuit 614, GY/O) and Pin 18 (Circuit 57, BK).

o Is Pin 2 shorted to ground?

Yes LOCATE and SERVICE short to ground in Circuit 614 (GY/O), Circuit 615 (GY/W), or air bag sliding contact wiring. RECONNECT system. CYCLE ignition switch. PROCEED to the description, schematic, and pinpoint tests of the diagnostic trouble code that is flashing.

No GO to «13-4».



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DTC 13: AIR BAG CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND

13-4 CHECK PASSENGER CIRCUIT FOR SHORTS

o Measure resistance between air bag diagnostic monitor harness connector Pin 5 (Circuit 607, LB/O) and Pin 18 (Circuit 57, BK).

o Is Pin 5 shorted to ground?

Yes LOCATE and SERVICE short to ground in Circuit 607 (LB/O) or Circuit 616 (PK/BK). RECONNECT system. CYCLE ignition switch. PROCEED to the description, schematic, and pinpoint tests of the diagnostic trouble code that is flashing.

No GO to «13-5».



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DTC 13: AIR BAG CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND

13-5 CHECK PRIMARY SENSORS

o Measure resistance between air bag diagnostic monitor harness connector Pin 15 (Circuit 619, PK/W) and Pin 18 (Circuit 57, BK).

o Measure resistance between air bag diagnostic monitor harness connector Pin 16 (Circuit 617, PK/O) and Pin 18 (Circuit 57, BK).

o Are resistance readings infinite (open)?

Yes REPLACE air bag diagnostic monitor and bracket. RECONNECT system. VERIFY system. REACTIVATE system.

No GO to «13-6».



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DTC 13: AIR BAG CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND

13-6 DETERMINE IF SENSOR OR WIRE IS SHORTED

o Disconnect radiator primary crash sensor corresponding to the circuit with resistance to ground found in Step 13-5.

o Measure resistance across normally open contacts of radiator primary crash sensor at the sensor connector.

o Is resistance reading infinite (open)?

Yes LOCATE and SERVICE resistance to ground in wiring harness on affected circuits. RECONNECT system. CYCLE ignition switch. PROCEED to the description, schematic, and pinpoint tests of the diagnostic trouble code that is flashing.

No REPLACE respective radiator primary crash sensor. RECONNECT system. CYCLE ignition switch. PROCEED to the description, schematic, and pinpoint tests of the diagnostic trouble code that is flashing.

 

[Slow5.0]

Man thats a lot stuff to do

 

[Methodical]

It is an appropriately named site, huh.

I also have a code I need to clear. it looks like one can clear some codes by grounding that 3? wire connector (in the glove box?). I did not really read up yet, nor could i find the connector. Dont turn your key on if you have removed a front impact sensor.

does clearing the capacitors in the air bag puter clear codes? (like how we clear the KAM)?

No you can't clear any codes that way. I am still trying to find the harness that allows you to clear the codes. I see an unplugged harness to the right of the glove box but that has more that 2 pins and the Service Manual shows 2 pins. Still searching.

 

[CManT1914]

All right, here's the connector you guys are looking for.

 

[HISSIN50]

All right, here's the connector you guys are looking for.

 

[Slow5.0]

Ok guys ,that info CManT1914 posted how to fix code 13 is kinda hard for me, what i understand when i have code 13 it tryin blow 10A #4 like just happen again this morning, now code 13 is gone buy code 24 is back ,so that mean i have blown fuse again

Thing is when i try fix code 13 ,HOW i can unplug those wired on airbag module under CD player, ,DO I HAVE TO disconect battery bego0re ???
Which wires/pins i have to check (on module side or on harnes side)

And i was thinkin meybe i gonna do something wrong and them airbags gonna blow without hitting something with front sensors

 

[Slow5.0]

Ok guys ,that info CManT1914 posted how to fix code 13 is kinda hard for me, what i understand when i have code 13 it tryin blow 10A #4 like just happen again this morning, now code 13 is gone buy code 24 is back ,so that mean i have blown fuse again

Thing is when i try fix code 13 ,HOW i can unplug those wired on airbag module under CD player, ,DO I HAVE TO disconect battery bego0re ???
Which wires/pins i have to check (on module side or on harnes side)

And i was thinkin meybe i gonna do something wrong and them airbags gonna blow without hitting something with front sensors

ANYONE ???

 

[CManT1914]

ANYONE ???

Normal Operation The air bag diagnostic monitor measures the voltage at Pins 2, 3, 4, and 5 of the air bag diagnostic monitor connector. The voltage at these pins is set by the air bag diagnostic monitor and varies with charging system voltage (the expected voltages are shown in the following table). If the air bag diagnostic monitor detects low voltage on any of these pins, the air bag diagnostic monitor will store in memory and flash out on the air bag indicator a DTC 13 to indicate a possible short to ground on these circuits. At the same time the air bag diagnostic monitor begins flashing out DTC 13, it attempts to disarm the air bag system to prevent inadvertent deployment of the air bag(s) by blowing the 10A battery fuse feeding air bag diagnostic monitor Pins 13 and 14. It attempts to blow the fuse by activating a solid state switch which shorts the battery feed at Pin 13 to sheet metal ground at the air bag diagnostic monitor's bracket. The air bag diagnostic monitor will make up to three attempts to blow this fuse, spaced one minute apart.

o If the air bag diagnostic monitor has blown the fuse and thus removed battery voltage at Pin 14, a DTC 12 will be stored (refer to DTC «12» and «52» for further details).

o If the air bag diagnostic monitor attempts to blow the 10A battery fuse three times and fails each time, a DTC 24 will be stored (refer to DTC «24» and «64» for further details).

o After the 10A fuse is blown or three attempts to blow it fail, the air bag diagnostic monitor will not attempt to disarm again until the DTC 13 condition has been serviced and cleared (refer to «Diagnostic Trouble Code Clearing» for further details).

o Should the short on Pins 2, 3, 4 or 5 be intermittent or repaired, the air bag diagnostic monitor will flash out a DTC 53 (or a higher priority DTC such as DTC 12 if one exists) on the next ignition switch cycle.


Looks like the air bag system has tried to blow the fuse to many times and failed. Check out the wiring behind pins 2, 3, 4, and 5 I guess to see if they are okay. Might wanna check out that ground near the air bag diagnostic monitor's bracket. That's all I know to do. Good luck bro.