AN OPEN CHALLANGE -- Suspension Competition!!!!!

[mtbdoc]

You are wrong mate, I have the RRS struts / discs and they're worth every penny over the stock suspension for daily driving.

Marshall

But even this statement is overly vague: daily driving...meaning what? disc brakes are necessary. Better camber curve is CLEARLY needed...

...but, for example, compare the camber curve and effect on handling for the RRS struts vs. a simple Shelby drop + roller perch, for example. Add a wedge kit and drop the upper arm more, and compare that.

Over on corner-carvers.com there is a synopsis of several people's opinions about how to make these cars handle. Here is a link: http://wiki.corner-carvers.com/index.php?Vintage Mustang Tech There has been a lot of conversation over there about this. The most recent development is EVM developing their rear suspension for the classics. In fact, there is a 'pre-order' going on right now, and I am really thinking about going this way. Here is that link: http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26035 .

Along the same lines, it would be nice to be able to drive different engine setups. For example, with our new GTO's, there are roots blowers, centrifugal blowers, rear-mount turbo, and [normal] turbo. Getting a feel for the differences BEFORE purchase would be awesome, but is hard to do.

 

[Pbum5]

I found some #’s for the Shelby GT 500E with the TCP suspension.

This is from Road and Track April 2005

Don’t know how accurate this is but at least we have some #’s.

408 Stroker.
475HP 490 lb-ft Torque


0-60 4.2 sec

1/4 Mile - 12.5 @ 114.0 mph

Braking 60-0 138 ft 80-0 269 ft

Lateral Acceleration .87g (2005 Mustang GT .86g)

Slalom Speed 67.0mph (2005 Mustang GT 65.5mph)

Looks good on paper if it can out handle a 2005 Mustang GT

 

[mtbdoc]

Simply measuring a lateral g-force is not any real measure of handling! Hang HUGE rubber and keep the tires planted in a circle => high g-force...but that doesn't tell you anything about what happens in non-steady state conditions [ie real driving/racing].

There are a lot of cars that can take a BMW on the skidpad...but not on a track!

 

[Pbum5]

Simply measuring a lateral g-force is not any real measure of handling! Hang HUGE rubber and keep the tires planted in a circle => high g-force...but that doesn't tell you anything about what happens in non-steady state conditions [ie real driving/racing].

There are a lot of cars that can take a BMW on the skidpad...but not on a track!

what about the slalom #'s?

 

[mtbdoc]

what about the slalom #'s?

I will grant you that provides a measure of transient handling, at least on dead-flat pavement. Then again, NOTHING can compete with the slalom time of a Honda CRX...so there is more to it. But you are correct that this does have a bit more 'real world' applicability than simply a skidpad number.

Take it out on a road course for lap times...no, bring it here to Birmingham. Rent me the Barber track for the day... and I'll let you know!

 

[C0V3R]

But even this statement is overly vague: daily driving...meaning what? disc brakes are necessary. Better camber curve is CLEARLY needed...

...but, for example, compare the camber curve and effect on handling for the RRS struts vs. a simple Shelby drop + roller perch, for example. Add a wedge kit and drop the upper arm more, and compare that.

I have done exactly that. The RRS stuff feels better than a shelby dropped + lowered stock front end by a fair margin.