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StangDreamin'

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We sometimes talk about stuff not involving Mustangs around here; so I thought I'd tell you about my latest "distraction".

Since around Christmas, I've been looking at a blackpowder pistol, but I was waiting until my Rodeo was over. Well, the gun went on sale at Cabela's through March second, so around Feb 26th I finally "pulled the trigger" (pun fully intended) and ordered up a "Remington 1858 New Army". Got to play with it yesterday.

Let me tell you, after years of dumping speedloaders and shoving mags into various rifles/pistols and blazing away; it was "different" (to say the least) to be measuring out 30 grains of Pyrodex, dumping it into a chamber, stuffing a wad in, (do that 5 more times); set a ball on top of the chamber and ram it home (do that 5 more times, too). When you shoot; pull back that big ol' hammer, center the target and the front sight in the 'v' in the top strap, squeeze the trigger, wait for the smoke to clear, and see how close you were on target. Think about your next sight picture. Do it again.

Why? Well, I like to shoot; and it's something I can put down and get back to something else - like get the Mercury running. Once I clean it, I can put it back in the safe and it will be there when I get back to it - I'm not having to constantly mind it, worry about paying for it, worry about somebody else doing something stupid to $crew it up....... just me and the pistol and the steel plate swinging on the frame. I loved it.

Why? Well I'll tell you:

1) It's slow. No high pressure, no struggling to keep ahead of a million things, no phones ringing with another fire to pi$$ on; just me, the pistol, and the target.

2) Everything involved, involves just me. No delegating to somebody else and waiting for that somebody else to report back or be reported as having irritated some multi-thousand-dollar sponsor.

3) It's "old". Even if it's a reproduction from Italy; it's considered an "antique firearm", 'cause cap-and-ball pistols are waaaay more obsolete than even Model T parts.

4) Since blackpowder firearms build up their pressures much more slowly than "smokeless" cartridge firearms, the recoil/muzzle flip is much more gradual (Think: "N.A. -vs- Blown/Bottled"); which will help me get over the flinch I've given myself while shooting .44 MAG rounds out of my 4" barrelled S&W Mountain Revolver.

5) Because it's "an antique", it doesn't fall under "Modern Gun Laws". If it weren't for my credit card record and the UPS shipping logs -Yes, they'll ship it right to your house instead of a gun shop! - there's no "official record" (like a Federal Firearms Transfer form) of it entering into my ownership.
I know it's not much, but it's mine; and BATF doesn't have a record of that.
I fear that we may suffer "gun-grabbing" in the next 3-3/4 years; but in "the 21st Century", whose gonna worry about some old fart with a re-popped 151-year-old pistol that takes 10 minutes (when I get better -but not still really good- at it) to reload?
Meanwhile, some thug beating down my door will still be facing 300 grains of lead along with a h*ll of a lot of noise!

6) Mastering the art is not a lot different from tuning a Holley 4160 series; once you find the sweet spot, it's allllll good!

Just thought I'd share.
 

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if you decide to use that as a defense weapon, one piece of advice, reload it every morning as the black powder tends to absorb moisture and then fails to fire when needed. nice gun though.
 

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Yeah, I was reading the Pyrodex loading data (didn't want FFFg; too cheap to buy Triple 7) and they mentioned that "...while Pyrodex P is not as adsorbent as regular black powder; it will eventually 'turn' in humid climates..." - or something like that, I don't have the paper right in front of me at this time.

Since I haven't had a swamp cooler since moving back home from (what is now part of Marana) in Oct '87; I think I'm a little bit safer.....

So what if I have to remove (Through ignition!) 6 chambers full of Pyrodex every weekend; what's the harm in that???

EDIT: While shooting this weekend, I managed to meet a gentleman on the BOD of "The Yuma Long Rifles" (local blackpowder club); who was telling me that Triple 7 is in fact Hodgdon's sugar-based propellent.

Hmmmmmmmm, how to get a BANG out of a Hershey bar!
 

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how close are you to orange grove and thornydale? i have a friend that does window tinting at the specialist there.
 

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rbohm said:
how close are you to orange grove and thornydale? i have a friend that does window tinting at the specialist there.
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I could be flippant and say "Oh, about 250 miles".

ME said:
Since I haven't had a swamp cooler since moving back home from (what is now part of Marana) in Oct '87; I think I'm a little bit safer.....
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I moved from Cortaro Rd west of Silverbelle (which I understand is now part of Marana) in Oct '87. Been "....back home...." in Yuma for over 21 years. We had three evap coolers in "our little shack on the side of the hill" out there in Cortaro township; but, from late-July through September they don't work any better here (just 40 miles north of El Golfo de California) than they do over there in Tucson during the same monsoon-al months.

Remember, I'm the Yuma High redneck that married an Amphi grad......
And now she thinks like me!
Can't wait to get her on a 'non-call weekend day' to try out the "antique" .44 - maybe she'll claim that as her own (I'd have to buy and load up a couple of spare remington cylinders); and give me my K-frame .357 back.
 

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StangDreamin' said:
I fear that we may suffer "gun-grabbing" in the next 3-3/4 years.....
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I went to Turner's Sporting Goods store last week to buy some fish hooks. While I was there, I also looked into buying more 9mm rounds. Their supply of all their bullets were down to a few boxes on the shelves. Even their display cases that usually house many hand guns were just about empty. The clerk at the register said that there has been a run on the ammo and guns recently. Hmmmmmm.
 

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Same here. When my son Matt and I came back into town after shooting; I grabbed the day pack that I use as a "field gun-kit" and found the bottom was all wet. Turns out my 8 oz bottle of Hoppe's #9 was at the bottom of the bag, which had fallen off the ready bench at the range. Yep, broken glass and no Hoppes left. So since it was Sunday night, I only got as far as Wally World's sporting goods department. Looked like a critter in the road after the vultures had left....... no Hope's, no Rem Oil, one can of Birchwood-Casey Gun Scrubber (which I grabbed), a couple bottles of "Rem-Clean" (their version of Hoppe's - which I also grabbed). The ammo case was similarly empty; no .22LR, no 9, no .40 Smith, no .45ACP, .44Mag, or .357; two lonely boxes of .38 148 grn wadcutter. No .30-06, .270, .243, 308, some .338 Win Mag. The place looked like the Toy Dept after "Black Friday". I was starting to think they were closing down that part of Sporting Goods; but apparently no, they just can't keep stock on hand for long. Wow.
 

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I haven't gone shooting in many many years but I used to just clean out my guns with WD40. It cleaned them out well, was cheaper and didn't stink like the nitro. Of course, if you don't use the guns regularly, it does make the mechanical mechanisms sticky.
 

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StangDreamin' said:
I could be flippant and say "Oh, about 250 miles".


I moved from Cortaro Rd west of Silverbelle (which I understand is now part of Marana) in Oct '87. Been "....back home...." in Yuma for over 21 years. We had three evap coolers in "our little shack on the side of the hill" out there in Cortaro township; but, from late-July through September they don't work any better here (just 40 miles north of El Golfo de California) than they do over there in Tucson during the same monsoon-al months.

Remember, I'm the Yuma High redneck that married an Amphi grad......
And now she thinks like me!
Can't wait to get her on a 'non-call weekend day' to try out the "antique" .44 - maybe she'll claim that as her own (I'd have to buy and load up a couple of spare remington cylinders); and give me my K-frame .357 back.
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sorry i got the impression that you had moved to marana.
 

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Nope, moved from ".....what is now part of Marana."

Didn't we compare notes one time? You went to CDO HS; my wife went to Amphi?

Or... waitaminute, do I have you confused with a guy over on mercurycougar.net?

This other guy was -if I remember correctly- originally from either VA or West VA; his family moved to Tucson when his Dad started having job-related medical issues; and then he moved back to his home state as an adult.
 

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i went to palo verde high school.
 

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Okay, I remember now......

As I said; there's a guy on mc.net that moved from VA to Tucson (actually Catalina) as a youngster; went to CDO and then back to VA. I had mentioned something about Tucson over there and he came back with a bunch of "Where were you and when?" type questions. This was a just a couple - three months ago; and that's what I remembered.

I think one of my wife's friends/former UofA classmates was a PV grad - would have been around 1979.
 

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whats their name? i graduated in 1976.
 

StangDreamin'

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Mary Fulton - I'm pretty sure that was her maiden name; she and Gene got married 15 months before Sue and I did. '76 would have put her a Freshman when you graduated.
 
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