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mikepotts said:
killer95stang put up the paper to show his numbers but look at his motor, it may have "P" heads, but it sure aint no budget build... race port job, beehive springs, Titanium retainers, custom cam, rpm intake, tweecer tuner...

BRAVO! to killer, he built a monster motor with cast heads! but he didnt spare much expense.
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It's not so much the peak power where the "p" heads shine, but their torque curve. A lot of guys who are running basic P-combo's tell about all the low end torque they have gained, and a few have 12 sec time slips.

A friend of mine slapped some untouched P's on his 5.0 with a Cobra intake and B303 and was trapping 13's ~ 106MPH with it. Prob could hit 12's with some suspension tweaks. Pretty damn good for "junkyard" cast heads.

My point wasn't to say they could make 300 rwHP, but more that to do so takes some combo tweaking and thought...as well as a little money.

However, there are guys putting down 270-280 rwHP with P heads without the exotic hardware. I beleive 25thmustang's dad is putting down 280 HP or so to the wheels with a stock cam and untouched P heads. Impressive number when you consider you can find these heads for $200 or out of a boneyard for even less. Slap a set of springs on them for $100 and you can put together a decent 300 flywheel HP combo with some good parts selection for fairly cheap. The P heads are less about peak HP and more about the torque they make. Fun street car combo that a lot of guys would be satisfied with.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
It's not so much the peak power where the "p" heads shine, but their torque curve. A lot of guys who are running basic P-combo's tell about all the low end torque they have gained, and a few have 12 sec time slips.

A friend of mine slapped some untouched P's on his 5.0 with a Cobra intake and B303 and was trapping 13's ~ 106MPH with it. Prob could hit 12's with some suspension tweaks. Pretty damn good for "junkyard" cast heads.

My point wasn't to say they could make 300 rwHP, but more that to do so takes some combo tweaking and thought...as well as a little money.

However, there are guys putting down 270-280 rwHP with P heads without the exotic hardware. I beleive 25thmustang's dad is putting down 280 HP or so to the wheels with a stock cam and untouched P heads. Impressive number when you consider you can find these heads for $200 or out of a boneyard for even less. Slap a set of springs on them for $100 and you can put together a decent 300 flywheel HP combo with some good parts selection for fairly cheap. The P heads are less about peak HP and more about the torque they make. Fun street car combo that a lot of guys would be satisfied with.
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impressive enough to make me embarassed what my 347 makes with TW heads!
 

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mikepotts said:
what is the duration on a 93 cobra cam?
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Part number for the cam is F3ZE-6250-CA. Specs are as follows:

Intake/Exhaust duration in degrees of crankshaft rotation: 270/270 and at 0.050 lift 209/209

Intake/Exhaust lift at valve with 1.7 rocker ratio: 0.479/0.479"

Lobe separation is 118.3 degrees with 115 intake lobe center and a 121.5 exhaust lobe center.

Timing events at 0.050 lift are:

Intake: (BTDC):-10.5 / (ABDC): 39.5

Exhaust: (BBDC): 46.0 / (ATDC): -17.0
 
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thanks, back in the mid 90's when i was building more mustangs i tried to find the numbers on cobra cam and came up with nothing, like it was top secret or something, i was told it was the same cam used in the 86 gt but could not substantiate (i had no internet back then).
 

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As far as I know, it's also used in the 93-95 Cougar and Thunderbird equipped with the 5.0 HO
 
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