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from6to8

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I'm thinking this is a 3650 or a 3550. It has a Lakewood scatter shield
 

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limp

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Is that an older Richmond??
 

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Is that an older Richmond??
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I have no idea nor have I ever heard of that trans LOL
 

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Huh lol? Are you saying it's a Richmond and this is an image?
 

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limp said:
Is that an older Richmond??
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is it easy to find the tag on the trans while in the car to verify the part number on it? I need to find out what it is because i already ordered and recieved a ford performance m 6392 r58 bell on ebay because I was thinking it was a 3650 or 3550. I can send it back if it won't work. I might also think about reusing the lakewood scattershield but I need to find a cover plate that covers the fork.
 

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This one might be more helpful:

 

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part number on the bellhousing would also be a pretty good clue.

As far as pattern recognition goes, Ive had plenty of T5s, 3550s, old school TKO, and my T56s and the ribs on that case do not seem familiar to me.
 

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part number on the bellhousing would also be a pretty good clue.

As far as pattern recognition goes, Ive had plenty of T5s, 3550s, old school TKO, and my T56s and the ribs on that case do not seem familiar to me.
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where specifically on the trans would it be, as in while in the car? One guy on the corral said it might be an older richmond I did look at a photo and it could be. I'm just curious if the M 6392 R58 bell I bought would work for it even if a richmond so I need to verify that number on it. It has a lakewood scattershield on now.....
 

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and here's the bell I have

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6392-r58?srsltid=AfmBOorBO5WdjlZA7QDuVyRsjDfqLcc0gJ-7XXVqWKMm3HDPZG-4xXGJ
 

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That's a TKO/3550.


See this pic and you can see various features from this angle line up with yours



 
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There will be a tag on the passenger's side upper area shown here

 
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That's a TKO/3550.


See this pic and you can see various features from this angle line up with yours



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cool beans man appreciate the help. I'm going to see if I can get to the tag this weekend to verify.

One other question for you. So does " All " tremec trans/bell need to be indexed? Is there a bell to buy or a way to not have to index them?
 

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3650 has an integrated bell housing so that is not a 3650.
 

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3650 has an integrated bell housing so that is not a 3650.
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Mustang5L5 confirmed that it's a 3550 but I will see if I can get to the tag this weekend to verify........
 

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cool beans man appreciate the help. I'm going to see if I can get to the tag this weekend to verify.

One other question for you. So does " All " tremec trans/bell need to be indexed? Is there a bell to buy or a way to not have to index them?
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I index any trans I install. I've done it to T5's, but fortunately everything measured up nice so I didn't have to make any adjustments.
 

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I index any trans I install. I've done it to T5's, but fortunately everything measured up nice so I didn't have to make any adjustments.
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Gotcha. I've never heard of indexing until someone from the corral said he had to with his as his was, well here's his quote:

" I have that same bellhousing for my TKX. They arent made by Ford AFAIK. I would recommend indexing your bellhousing. Mine was bout .017 off center but I was able to get it to .004 with adjustable dowels."

I've watched one video but haven't watched more to see why and what exactly indexing is as I thought he was talking about the holes lining up so definitely have to familiarize myself with the process and what exactly it is.......
 

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It's essentially making sure the input shaft of the trans is directly inline with the centerline of rotation of the crank. If it's not lined up, it will put a side load on the input shaft

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Mustang5L5 said:
It's essentially making sure the input shaft of the trans is directly inline with the centerline of rotation of the crank. If it's not lined up, it will put a side load on the input shaft

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gotcha,
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
It's essentially making sure the input shaft of the trans is directly inline with the centerline of rotation of the crank. If it's not lined up, it will put a side load on the input shaft

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will my engine builder need a bell similiar to mine or close to it to be able to do the indexing for me before he ships? I'm sending the flywheel to him by the way
 
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