Also, only B&M experience was with the quicksilver. The first one was a new one, the second was a used one. Both busted on the street during "spirited" driving using the ratchet feature. I was in the passenger seat both times. This was over ten years ago, maybe the design is better. There wasn't an excessive amount of force used either, just using the heal of the hand to bump it up, both snapped off in the shifter body, flew up, hit the ash tray and fell into the passenger floor at my feet. It now has a modified stock shifter that has a ratchet action.