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Loco5.0 said:
But Mr Rogers and BBK are not making it right in this case. I don't think requesting my purchase price back is an unreasonable request.
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I know you don't think asking for your money back is an unreasonable request.

Having the part picked up and warranty inspected for repair or replacement is far from unreasonable. It's just not on your terms.


If you buy a car and it has a warranty issue that is easily fixed, and then you decide that you now don't want the car at all, the dealer is not going to take the car back for a full refund......They are going to fix the car.
 

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Bryan, I dont think that you are going to get anywhere in this post. You have offered to do what you will, and both parties are not going to agree on how to fix the issue the way "they" want to. Just let Loco do what he wants to do and move on to other issues i'm sure you need to attend to. I'm not taking sides either way, but this thread has turned into nothing more then a pissing match.... just my.02
 
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Bryan, I dont think that you are going to get anywhere in this post. You have offered to do what you will, and both parties are not going to agree on how to fix the issue the way "they" want to. Just let Loco do what he wants to do and move on to other issues i'm sure you need to attend to. I'm not taking sides either way, but this thread has turned into nothing more then a pissing match.... just my.02
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You're right.

I think it's obvious that this is not a typical situation and that I/we care enough to follow up on this kind of thing and not let it go without responding with the facts.

Most companies do not care what is being said as long as the shelves are full of their product and nothing matters as long as the boss has gas for his yacht and a condo with a slip to moor it in the harbor.

Here at BBK we are just enthusiasts who care about the products and the customers who use them. We all drive Mustangs, & trucks, the President drives an 02 Zo6 & the cars we choose to race are 5.0 Mustangs.

O.K.... one joker drives a Porsche, but I prototyped a CAI and we bored out the TB on it......

I just hate to leave people mis-informed or with only half of the story.

Well, if anyone else wants some "horrible customer service" feel free to give me a call, send me a P.M., or email me tech@bbkperformance.com. I'll be glad to help out with questions, problems, or troubleshooting.

Just be prepared to let me help........
 

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BRYAN ROGERS said:
I know you don't think asking for your money back is an unreasonable request.

Having the part picked up and warranty inspected for repair or replacement is far from unreasonable. It's just not on your terms.


If you buy a car and it has a warranty issue that is easily fixed, and then you decide that you now don't want the car at all, the dealer is not going to take the car back for a full refund......They are going to fix the car.
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As long as BBK has been making these things, it shouldn't require a 2nd try and I have the right to pass on such an attempt & get my $ back.

Apples to oranges w/the car warranty thing, but there is something called a lemon law if you want to go there.
 

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BRYAN ROGERS said:
In fact it is you who is trying to take advantage of BBK by dragging our name through the mud in your posts. You have the attitude that you are just going to crap all over us and the company name to get what you want.
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If anyone is taking advantage it's BBK taking advantage of me. You have the $ and I have a useless part.


It's amazing to me that over the last 6 months that I've been handling tech, you are the only person who has had an unsolveable issue.
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Very easy to resolve this. Give me my money.

The funny thing is, you can solve the problem but you chose not to because you want to pull a power play and show off your might and wit in the threads by fighting this until ------- happens (left it blank because I don't know what you think is going to happen here).
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I believe pot meet kettle applies here since you've gone right along when all you need to do is send me a check.


I honestly love helping people out with problems and I feel good when I hang up the phone or get an email from people who are genuinely happy that they got a chance to talk with me and let me help them figure out problems.

Maybe it's you?
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You do? Then I expect my check to be in the mail tomorrow.
 

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Loco5.0 said:
I'll sell it back to BBK for $369.95
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Maybe He will give BBK a big ol Discount and sell it for $360
 

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I have never used a BBK producted so I cannot comment on that.

Mr. Rogers can BBK even issue a credit with the company for future purchases?
 
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BRYAN ROGERS said:
You sound like a reasonable guy, but in all fairness I don't think you've read the entire thread here before posting.

I never said there was no problem with the BBK pipe. I said "if there is, we will fix it or replace it under warranty".

I've been offering to fix or replace his pipe free of charge including a call tag for the shipping since he called me the first time. http://forums.stangnet.com/showpost.php?p=7355968&postcount=22

Just like Sony did for your TV (which you seem very pleased with).

How do you think Sony would've responded if you said "hey my T.V. is busted but I don't want it fixed or replaced. I want every cent back that I paid for it?

You didn't say that Sony offered to give you a 100% refund for the TV.

I also offered to sell him a new pipe at WD (big 'ol discount)and refund that money as soon as his defective pipe arrives back @ BBK. If he chose to keep the defective pipe he could do so.

Sounds like Sony's # 2 option a bit........

So where in your opinion did I go wrong?
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I try to be reasonable. Getting hot headed seldom gets me anywhere.

While your comparison to my Sony situation is mostly valid, there were a few things about the situation that make it different enough to not be a direct comparison.

First, if I told my original retailer I wanted a full refund of the TV a few days after I purchased it, I'm sure I would have received 100% of it back, no questions asked.

Second, the TV still worked. Sure, the big blue spot on the screen sucked, but I wasn't without a working TV at any point in time. In this case the OP (original poster) doesn't have a car he can drive because he doesn't have a midpipe.

Next, they offered a free repair of the product in my home. Fortunately, I have a 50" TV in my bedroom (Sony), so even if the guy broke my tv while fixing it, I still have a similar product to satisfy that need.(it was a battle at first with them, too, but shouldn't have been.)

Third, it's not against the law to use my TV without a power strip to plug it in. In the original poster's case, it's against the law for him to drive the car without a midpipe. (yes, I know he welded up the air pipe, but we'd be talking about various degrees of leagality, not the yes or no relationship of not having a midpipe at all.)

Lastly, Sony's replacement offer was reasonable. Assuming I understand your offer (and I may not), you offered to sell him a new pipe at a deeply discounted price of $360 dollars. According to www.latemodelrestorationsupply.com, they sell your Catted X Pipe for $369.

Sony sold me a $2300 TV for $750 dollars plus shipping AND they let me keep my existing TV. (which still works fine, mostly.)

That's nearly a 66% discount.

If you offered MR. OP the replacement pipe for 121 dollars AND you let him keep the pipe he already has, I think this thread wouldn't be 3 pages long, nor would it have people feeling like the little guy is being ignored.

I know the internet has become a vehicle for people to blow things out of proportion and has made voicing a complaint much more easy than it's ever been before. That having been said, once in a while you get someone who's legitimately got a valid complaint.

Alternately, it seems the internet has made it all too easy for a business to lose focus on the value of one customer. I'd argue that it's never been easier to flush an entire customer base, only to wake up the next morning to find the internet has refilled your pipeline again. That mindset can't last forever. Sooner or later someone else is going to swoop in and build a better mouse trap.

And you're gonig to be left with a pile of moldy cheese.

Now's the time to exceed everyone's expectation and step up to the plate. It's pretty clear this isn't an isolated incident, so this can't be a wholly unexpected situation.

This seems to have spiraled seriously out of control, all over trying to save the company the 100 bucks it actually costs to make this pipe.

I'm not sure this helps, but that's all I've got to say about that.

Alan
 
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BRYAN ROGERS

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I have never used a BBK producted so I cannot comment on that.

Mr. Rogers can BBK even issue a credit with the company for future purchases?
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Good question.

There are lots of options.... But, nothing can be done until the pipe is inspected by BBK to validate the warranty.

I've offered to pick up the pipe and repair or replace it.

Each time, the offer has been refused.

For all we know, O.P. could've used the pipe to get his inspection tags with the state and then went home and put some straight pipes on it, and is trying to return it for a full refund now that the car is registered.

People have been "leaving the tag on and wearing it once, then returning" stuff for years. We know this, and that's why we have firm policies on warranties.

It almost seems like this thread is being used as a diversionary tactic to make BBK want to pay him just to make him go away. Why else would someone kick up such a storm over something that could be easliy remedied?

No warranty parts go out without the defective part coming in first or being paid for C.O.D. We have no problem giving a refund on the C.O.D. amount once the returned item is inspected so long as the warranty claim is valid.
 

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Good question.

There are lots of options.... But, nothing can be done until the pipe is inspected by BBK to validate the warranty.
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Nope, you CHOOSE to do nothing. I told you, you can have the pipe back. I DO NOT WANT IT. I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER ONE EITHER. I WANT MY HARD EARNED MONEY!

For all we know, O.P. could've used the pipe to get his inspection tags with the state and then went home and put some straight pipes on it, and is trying to return it for a full refund now that the car is registered.
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WOW!!! Another gem from this obvious wonderful vendor BBK! Would you like to come look at it? I guarantee you it hasn't been run, but thanks for, again, showing us just what kind of despicable vendor you are.

It almost seems like this thread is being used as a diversionary tactic to make BBK want to pay him just to make him go away. Why else would someone kick up such a storm over something that could be easliy remedied?
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This thread is here to show everyone how BBK doesn't give two craps about its customers. Why else would you try to get into a pissing match with a paying customer when all they want is their money and they will gladly give you back the part?

No warranty parts go out without the defective part coming in first or being paid for C.O.D.
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Good thing I don't want another part then, huh?

We have no problem giving a refund on the C.O.D. amount once the returned item is inspected so long as the warranty claim is valid.
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Who in their right mind would pay you twice for a bad part?!

You've already lost a few customers from this thread alone. How many more do you want to lose? Oh nevermind, you don't care.
 
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Still waiting for an email with your address for the call-tag.

I won't post it in the thread.

If you want I can give you the email for another customer service rep so you don't have to deal with me directly.
 

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Still waiting for an email with your address for the call-tag.

I won't post it in the thread.

If you want I can give you the email for another customer service rep so you don't have to deal with me directly.
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Where's my check then?
 

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Still waiting for an email with your address for the call-tag.

I won't post it in the thread.

If you want I can give you the email for another customer service rep so you don't have to deal with me directly.
 

Loco5.0

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BRYAN ROGERS said:
Still waiting for an email with your address for the call-tag.

I won't post it in the thread.

If you want I can give you the email for another customer service rep so you don't have to deal with me directly.
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Yea, I read your post about that and, like I said, you can have it, but I want IN WRITING, that you will be sending me a check for $369.95 and not trying to send me another pipe.
 
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All the writing is right here in the thread.
 

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All the writing is right here in the thread.
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I did not read a post by you saying that you'd send me a check for the $369.95 I paid for it. Once you finally agree to that, we can get this taken care of & put behind us.
 
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I did not read a post by you saying that you'd send me a check for the $369.95 I paid for it.
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There wasn't one.

Here are the W.G.'s
http://www.bbkperformance.com/warranty.shtml

3rd paragraph
2nd & 3rd sentences.
Pretty much all you need to know.
 

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There wasn't one.

Here are the W.G.'s
http://www.bbkperformance.com/warranty.shtml

3rd paragraph
2nd & 3rd sentences.
Pretty much all you need to know.
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So you're still taking my $ & running then, gotcha!

Great company!
 

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Can BBK pay for dealer cost?
I understand not wanting to pay the markup the dealer makes...
 
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