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Kid wita 5oh

I'm definitely not in the original hole
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Have you replaced the check valve with each new booster?
 

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Yes. I even tried a second in-line check valve
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Maybe find a different brand booster?
 
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Can anyone recommend a good replacement? Or even an upgrade?
 

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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Have you looked on Rockauto?
 

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Yes. I have the Cardone one
 

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93CalypsoConvert said:
From the tree labeled BB
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I know its grasping at straws, but did you check the vacuum tree to make sure it is free of any cracks?
 

AeroCoupe

lube between the nut and the face. I know my lubes
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Would be easier to just get a vacuum gauge and put it on the car and see what it does or build smoke machine and check for leaks.
 

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Tree and manifold vacuum are nearly identical. No leaks as far as I know.
 

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Only thing I can think of is you may have a bad soft line, seal, wheel cylinder and when it gets hot the line expands to the point your pedal sinks
 

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I thought that too but it must be the booster since the MC can be unbolted and my brake pedal still won't return.
Unless the booster relies on the spring pressure in the master cylinder.
 

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lube between the nut and the face. I know my lubes
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Boosters are typically constructed with a return spring that returns the brake pedal to the original position. Vacuum just reduced the effort that it takes to overcome the spring pressure. So once the vacuum is removed and there is no pressure on the brake pedal rod then the booster diaphragm should return to the orignal position.
 

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell
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93CalypsoConvert said:
I thought that too but it must be the booster since the MC can be unbolted and my brake pedal still won't return.
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Binding in the pedal/ pedal assembly?

With the pedal bound, can you unclip the booster rod from the pedal and see what is free? Pedal or booster?


I'm suspicious that you've gotten multiple boosters in a row with the same issue. Needs to be something that has remained with the car after changing all the parts that you have.
 
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limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
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Binding in the pedal/ pedal assembly?

With the pedal bound, can you unclip the booster rod from the pedal and see what is free? Pedal or booster?


I'm suspicious that you've gotten multiple boosters in a row with the same issue. Needs to be something that has remained with the car after changing all the parts that you have.
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Good thought here.... The bushings in the pedal assembly could be worn out...
 

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It is the booster itself which is consistently failing. MC can be removed and the pedal can be disconnected
 

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93CalypsoConvert said:
...... Pushrod is adjustable, and is adjusted......
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Might be worth double checking that...



limp said:
Good thought here.... The bushings in the pedal assembly could be worn out...
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93CalypsoConvert said:
Just checked. No bushings.
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Mustang5L5

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That's just strange that you are having multiple boosters fail for the same issue. Have they both been Cardone remans?
 
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Both new Cardones. They have lifetime warranty but its far too late to get a refund. I might try spraying some lubricant into the pedal side of the booster. Any ideas what type I should use? I know some oils are bad for seals.
 

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Silicone lubricant would be best. Petroleum based will make rubber swell.
 
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Hello! Any updates on this? Having the exact same issue under same circumstances. Once MC is unhooked, the brake pedal is still stuck down an inch or so… On my second (reman) Cardone 5.0 booster from RockAuto. Pedal is free and not binding
 
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