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Budget 351W swap/build thread

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  • Start date Start date May 15, 2009
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99FiveOh

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well, you figure out how much you need for your new intake and we'll go from there. Maybe the edelbrock and elbow would work for your combo and it supposed to offer more hood clearance.
 

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I thought I would show some pic's of what the N/A S351's look like



 

99FiveOh

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It ticks me off that Ford Racing dosn't step up and start offering the 351W lower intakes. They mass produce replica 5.0 Cobra intakes, so it wouldn't be much for them to start popping out 351 lowers. If I could get hold of one, I could just use my Explorer upper and be done with it!
 

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The_Mustang said:
It ticks me off that Ford Racing dosn't step up and start offering the 351W lower intakes. They mass produce replica 5.0 Cobra intakes, so it wouldn't be much for them to start popping out 351 lowers. If I could get hold of one, I could just use my Explorer upper and be done with it!
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Tell him you just want the lOWER!!! Or offer him $400 and sell yours or his upper.

mustang intake gt40 gt 40 TUBULAR upper and lower 5.0 302 351w
 

BlackVert

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The_Mustang said:
well, you figure out how much you need for your new intake and we'll go from there. Maybe the edelbrock and elbow would work for your combo and it supposed to offer more hood clearance.
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i'll see what i can come up with and get back to you

i'm thinking maybe something based off the PP 54034 with an elbow and fuel rails
 

99FiveOh

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Did you come up with anything yet? Tell me what's on ya mind...
 

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i'm working on putting together a spyder-like setup with a PP hurricane and an elbow from coast. the hurricane requires aftermarket fuel rails, so i'm trying to figure that out. i have some rails from mallory, but the injector bosses may not be spaced the same as the hurricane, so i don't know if i can use it. the PP rails are $245 from summit
 

final5-0

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Lets talk about the topic of ..........

Picking a cam with a WIDE lsa to play nice with the pcm

My Opinion ... I repeat ... My Opinion

That is one of those phrases that really gets on my last nerve

Two reasons

1) We be a forum for 94-95 pcms NOT Fox pcms
therefore
We need to NOT think like Fox folk

Our pcm's are load based!

You up the cubic inches by 50 or more cubes and you are gonna have a
pcm that is hosed in the load department if you
try and run it un-optimized :Word:

2) Pick a cam to make power and focus on that thought ONLY
then
You optimize the pcm to take care of driveability issues as they crop up

Bottom line ... just think of a tune as a hot rod part
Just like a set of heads, intake, etc
and
Just budget in that cost like any other hot rod part

Rant is over now

Grady
 

99FiveOh

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BlackVert said:
i'm working on putting together a spyder-like setup with a PP hurricane and an elbow from coast. the hurricane requires aftermarket fuel rails, so i'm trying to figure that out. i have some rails from mallory, but the injector bosses may not be spaced the same as the hurricane, so i don't know if i can use it. the PP rails are $245 from summit
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Dude, Summit is HIGH priced! Check out ebay and other places like Brother's Performance and Blue Oval Industries. They beat the crap out of Summits price even with shipping added.

Summit wanted around 600 for that polished typhoon intake!
 

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The_Mustang said:
Dude, Summit is HIGH priced! Check out ebay and other places like Brother's Performance and Blue Oval Industries. They beat the crap out of Summits price even with shipping added.

Summit wanted around 600 for that polished typhoon intake!
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haha DAMN! $625 for a PP intake? They are on crack and a TFS R-series is $700.


Do they not know on ebay they are being sold for $399? hahahahaha
 

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Summit is high on a few things but over all have great prices. They sell the Edelbrock Victor 5.8 for $534
 
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What ever happened to this? Still doing the 351 or??
 

99FiveOh

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Yes, slow but it's gonna happen. Probably drop her in income tax time, this way I can finish it properly.
 
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I'm doing a Very similar swap but mines a 392c.i that I'm pulling from my Bronco, not doing the EFI but rather going Carb, less issues and less money over all. I'm trying some new lines of thinking for this swap and will start a Thread at some point.
 

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HcaSn95 said:
I'm doing a Very similar swap but mines a 392c.i that I'm pulling from my Bronco, not doing the EFI but rather going Carb, less issues and less money over all. I'm trying some new lines of thinking for this swap and will start a Thread at some point.
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whatcha doin about the fuel pressure problem?

sorry to take it :OT:
 
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When I start the Thread I'll throw up all my ideas, lets just say The stock pump is going away and a standard fuel pickup and sock is going in and still using the stock sending unit.
 

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The_Mustang said:
Yes, slow but it's gonna happen. Probably drop her in income tax time, this way I can finish it properly.
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If you don't have the elbow for the intake, I have one. I sold my car so I'm not going to use it. The P.O. chopped the EGR mount off but some material could easily be welded back on, if needed.

$50, shipped. PM me if you want it.
 

reddy351

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HcaSn95 said:
When I start the Thread I'll throw up all my ideas, lets just say The stock pump is going away and a standard fuel pickup and sock is going in and still using the stock sending unit.
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I actually did that when I put a carb'ed 5.0 into a Merkur XR4ti. Works great! Used a Holley "Red" pump.

I hope I didn't "goober" your secret.
 
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I actually did that when I put a carb'ed 5.0 into a Merkur XR4ti. Works great! Used a Holley "Red" pump.

I hope I didn't "goober" your secret.
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No you didn't I'm going to be using the Fuel return Line as well so I will let the pump push well over the Regulator and the 2nd out line from the Regulator will feed back to the Tank. I think the Red pump Regulator can be used that way as well. But I will take pics and Start a Thread that Way I don't highjack His
 

99FiveOh

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Ok everyone, riddle me this: If I build a 351 with E7's and GT40/Typhoon intake, it's going to make at least a little more power than a 302, correct? So if I plan to boost it with about 15 psi, I should have a pretty fun, reliable combo, correct? If I'm not looking to have more than say....450rwhp, then I'd be good to go...at least in my way of thinking.

For every dollar I save on the 351 swap, I can apply that to a blower. Just thinking out loud.
 
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