Cai, Tb, And Maf Suggestions...

a91what · Mar 11, 2016

Here is some documentation on it.
https://www.diyautotune.com/support...application-docs/1988-1993-ford-mustang-5-0l/

Ignore some of this. I will explain later

This is the kit.
https://www.diyautotune.com/product/diypnp-ford-60-pin-eec-iv-unassembled-kit-no-connector/

You will need to source a connector from somewhere, I used one off a junk ecu it requires desoldering the connector from the stock board.

You can wire anything from this unit, I use it to trigger my fan relays (low and high speed). And a shift light. So really the options are limitless.

Jrodstang87 · Mar 11, 2016

a91what said:
Here is some documentation on it.
https://www.diyautotune.com/support...application-docs/1988-1993-ford-mustang-5-0l/

Ignore some of this. I will explain later

This is the kit.
https://www.diyautotune.com/product/diypnp-ford-60-pin-eec-iv-unassembled-kit-no-connector/

You will need to source a connector from somewhere, I used one off a junk ecu it requires desoldering the connector from the stock board.

You can wire anything from this unit, I use it to trigger my fan relays (low and high speed). And a shift light. So really the options are limitless.

Interesting. I just browsed through some of that quickly. I will have more time later. But basically you DE solder the male connector from a stock ecu and solder it to that and it is the new ecu? Does it matter if the end you use if from a MAF or SD car?

Sounds like something I can do, not that I have any tuning experience but I am a master tech So i should be able to handle that. And I have heard the auto tune is great. Not bad for the price

As far as wide bands go I don't have any experience with them. Can you replace your 02 sensors with them or do you weld in a bung and use them separately?

a91what · Mar 11, 2016

You will have to build the entire ecu from parts. Before you freak out, it's easy and the instructions are good. You can use any 60 pin ford eec connector that will plug into your harness.

I WILL HELP YOU TUNE THE CAR. Lol, so don't worry about that. Once I go over it with you it'll all make sense.

For the wb you need a entire wb system. This will include a dash mounted gauge, (or where ever you want it) it's a must to see what is going on while you tune. It will get wired to the ecu using the driver side o2 wiring. The stock o2 harness can be removed. (Unless you are using something else in it).

Join us here for the MS discussion and we have links posted so you can download the base version of the software for FREE! This way you can brows thru the program and see if you feel comfortable with it.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/the-megasquirt-tunerstudio-help-thread.888730/

Jrodstang87 · Mar 11, 2016

a91what said:
You will have to build the entire ecu from parts. Before you freak out, it's easy and the instructions are good. You can use any 60 pin ford eec connector that will plug into your harness.

I WILL HELP YOU TUNE THE CAR. Lol, so don't worry about that. Once I go over it with you it'll all make sense.

For the wb you need a entire wb system. This will include a dash mounted gauge, (or where ever you want it) it's a must to see what is going on while you tune. It will get wired to the ecu using the driver side o2 wiring. The stock o2 harness can be removed. (Unless you are using something else in it).

Join us here for the MS discussion and we have links posted so you can download the base version of the software for FREE! This way you can brows thru the program and see if you feel comfortable with it.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/the-megasquirt-tunerstudio-help-thread.888730/

Seems pretty cool, but how much else will I need to buy other Than the kit and wide band system. And what wideband would work well with that system

a91what · Mar 11, 2016

Jrodstang87 said:
Seems pretty cool, but how much else will I need to buy other Than the kit and wide band system. And what wideband would work well with that system

You will need a soldering iron and solder, I suggest the lead solder. And some misc stuff like heat shrink.

Any wb will work I suggest the mtxl it's what I use but as long as it has an output to wire into the ms your gtg. Plx wb are also good.

Jrodstang87 · Mar 11, 2016

a91what said:
You will need a soldering iron and solder, I suggest the lead solder. And some misc stuff like heat shrink.

Any wb will work I suggest the mtxl it's what I use but as long as it has an output to wire into the ms your gtg. Plx wb are also good.

Oh good, as long as I would need more modules or anything bank breaking haha. I will definitely read more into it. Sounds exciting!!

Jrodstang87 · Mar 12, 2016

So tuning options aside. Whether I got maf or pnpdiy. Do you think the systemax us a good option for tfs 170 heads and a custom cam? Not too big of an intake?

stykthyn · Mar 12, 2016

Imho it's a great intake that even if it's little too much for your current application will run well and offer room for more growth down the line.

Jrodstang87 · Mar 12, 2016

stykthyn said:
Imho it's a great intake that even if it's little too much for your current application will run well and offer room for more growth down the line.

Awesome, just picked up some 30# injectors, just have a few things left to find. Then get that cam ground!

stykthyn · Mar 12, 2016

Be honest with yourself and the grinder about future plans/goals for the car. It will make all the difference between an OK motor and omg this thing made me crap my pants.

mikestang63 · Mar 12, 2016

i've got a PRO M bullet 75MM MAF calibrated for 30# injectors for sale. PM me if interested.

Jrodstang87 · Mar 12, 2016

stykthyn said:
Be honest with yourself and the grinder about future plans/goals for the car. It will make all the difference between an OK motor and omg this thing made me crap my pants.

Awesome. I guess it's possible for forced induction in the future but that would be waaaay distant future. So should I just get one ground for staying NA?

A5literMan · Mar 12, 2016

Jrodstang87 said:
Awesome. I guess it's possible for forced induction in the future but that would be waaaay distant future. So should I just get one ground for staying NA?

If staying n/a for awhile then get it ground for that. My cam was done by bullet cams but it was Spec'd by a member of a different forum. He has done a lot of cams. I still have his info if you're interested. A billet core runs around 400$ to your door. FYI. Mine was Spec'd around tfs 205cc 11r heads,HolleySMII,30#inj,LT headers,manual trans,3.73 gears. It had 223/227*dur at .050 w/ .525/.525 lift. Was going to pull to around 6-6200rpm. Also most n/a cams can be run with a blower. It wouldn't be a "perfect" cam but it would run fine. Also if you're going with the PnP don't worry about buying a MAF.

Jrodstang87 · Mar 12, 2016

A5literMan said:
If staying n/a for awhile then get it ground for that. My cam was done by bullet cams but it was Spec'd by a member of a different forum. He has done a lot of cams. I still have his info if you're interested. A billet core runs around 400$ to your door. FYI. Mine was Spec'd around tfs 205cc 11r heads,HolleySMII,30#inj,LT headers,manual trans,3.73 gears. It had 223/227*dur at .050 w/ .525/.525 lift. Was going to pull to around 6-6200rpm. Also most n/a cams can be run with a blower. It wouldn't be a "perfect" cam but it would run fine. Also if you're going with the PnP don't worry about buying a MAF.

Great. I was planning on going with FTI, heard great things. Unlesa aomeone recommends someone else for various reasons. I have basically the same mods as you except smaller heads. What did your car make for power, or run in the 1/4?

A5literMan · Mar 12, 2016

Jrodstang87 said:
Great. I was planning on going with FTI, heard great things. Unlesa aomeone recommends someone else for various reasons. I have basically the same mods as you except smaller heads. What did your car make for power, or run in the 1/4?

Unfortunately I had to scrap the project and in the process of selling the car soon. Didn't get it running. Dyno tuner and cam guy predicted around 350rwhp and 11sec et's. With your combo of parts and a custom cam, you should expect around 300-330rwhp.

Jrodstang87 · Mar 12, 2016

A5literMan said:
Unfortunately I had to scrap the project and in the process of selling the car soon. Didn't get it running. Dyno tuner and cam guy predicted around 350rwhp and 11sec et's. With your combo of parts and a custom cam, you should expect around 300-330rwhp.

Ohh that's too bad. Bummer. Part of me feels like the systemax will be too big for my setup, wondering if I should go with the street heat trick flow. Idk. Plus i would have to put my stock valve covers back on, cause I read the systemax doesn't work with tall fms Covers. I will have to make my stockers clear the 1.7rr. No big deal if the intake Is the right choice. I'm just worried that it is too big

A5literMan · Mar 12, 2016

It's not to big bud. It's perfect for a h/c/i 302/306.

Jrodstang87 · Mar 12, 2016

A5literMan said:
It's not to big bud. It's perfect for a h/c/i 302/306.

Perfect. Then looks like I have to hunt for systemax, 70mm TB and think a 75mm maf is sufficient?

A5literMan · Mar 12, 2016

I'd go 75mm tb also but the 70 work fine. The reason I say 75mm tb is for a few reasons. For one there is no down side of having everything in front of the intake(tb,cai,MAF) being as big as possible. You want as much airflow capabilities as possible. It doesn't effect anything in a negative way. The Holley intake is a 75mm opening(actually it's about 73.5 lol) and you don't want any choke points. If you do add a blower or whatever you'll want a 75 at a minimum anyway. So buy once! Also I highly recommend Accufab for the brand. BBK has a tendency to whistle and are t as good. FTI is a good choice for your cam. Ed does a great job. You probably will have to buy springs for the heads/cam change just FYI. My Holley cleared some canton valve covers. Not sure on FMS brand but the tall covers are for a carb setup are t they?

stykthyn · Mar 12, 2016

Explorer covers clear tall rockers but the systemax sits low and has a hard time clearing stock valve covers.

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