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yzfr12007

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i have a stock set of heads and looking at an x303 cam do i need to upgrade my rockers or anything else that i have to change to run that cam???
 

revhead347

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You need to upgrade your heads. That cam will tear your engine to pieces.

Kurt
 

ProKiller

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its a little too aggressive for stock heads. you'd be better off getting better heads than a cam swap at this point.
 
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Not to hijack this, but for stock heads, what cam would work without killing the engine?

B, E, F???

Thanks,
Ben
 

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For stock heads, you are better served just going with some 1.7 roller rockers.

That's just my opinion...
 

final5-0

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While I don't care for alphabet cams

One thing to keep in mind is .........
those cams were built to crutch up the piss poor e ports of OEM heads

therefore

It would seem to me that ...........
e cam would be more suited to be used with E7's than a TFS 1 cam that
was built for heads that do not have the same short comming as
old OEM iron heads

Just a thought

Grady
 

revhead347

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There old single grind cams. They were designed to give old SBFs that classic grumbling noise. I'd also like to add that a .542 lift cam is likely to have piston to valve clearance issues without notching the pistons.

Kurt
 

Dino Dino Bambino

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alleymad95GT said:
For stock heads, you are better served just going with some 1.7 roller rockers.
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Agree. If you have poor-flowing heads there's no point in having a big cam. Actually you could transplant higher-flowing heads onto the 5.0 and it would perform very well with the stock cam and 1.7 RRs.
 

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your best upgrade would be getting a new intake and swapping out the gears before doing a cam. do the cam and heads together

just a couple of pennies from an old fart
 
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Thanks for the info... was curious myself. I had been kicking around the idea of e303 for my E7's, but I think I am just going to leave the vert alone in that dept. If anything I do like the idea of the 1.7's. Would the rockers upgrade be noticable in terms of hp gain, or minimal?

My current setup:
3.73's
Cobra upper / .5" spacer / lower
70mm TB
Cold air
Shorty headers
Pro Chamber
Pro Dumps

Thanks,
Ben
 

final5-0

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IMHO ... 1.7 rr's would gain less than 10 rwhp

Grady
 

revhead347

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10 rwhp isn't bad considering it's a 1 hour swap, and the rockers are something you're going to need eventually anyway. A cat back is only like 10rwhp, and that takes half a day to install, and costs twice as much.

Kurt
 

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I'd bet you'd be closer to 5 than 10

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"The best cam for stock heads is the stock cam." - Jay Allen

Adam
 

Dino Dino Bambino

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revhead347 said:
10 rwhp isn't bad considering it's a 1 hour swap, and the rockers are something you're going to need eventually anyway.
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The gain is more like 5rwhp but 1.7 rockers are still worth it. They're easy to install and you can still use them if you upgrade to better pedestal-mount heads and upgrade the cam later on.
 
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