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Can I beat my buddy?

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basically, to sum up what everyone has said.

if he can drive, you will lose.
 

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Ya, it all comes down to driver...even if he has more hp, you could still win.
 
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I disagree, Havent raced a 00 GT but with a set of gears and a good launch I think you will take him.

Here are the specs on the 00
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/fo...l?tid=edmunds.u.standard.leftsidenav..6.Ford*

and here are the stock specs on the 5.0
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1990/fo...l?tid=edmunds.u.standard.leftsidenav..6.Ford*

POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO....Look at the numbers.

Run your car to about empty and put two gallons into it and that will lighten you up and pull out the spare and you will hand his ass to him. MYy 2 cents
 
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Not to mention that you droped some weight with adding aftermarket mufflers and if you want to drop more weight take off the fog light assembly and that will spring some weight off the front end.
 
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ARed1995GT - If you would have done some research you would have found out that the 96 weight 200 lbs lighter... POWER TO WEIGHT.. even if there was as difference of 50lbs between the engines, the 96 would still be lighter..

Blown Fox -
What size tires are you running compared to the 00?
 
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He's runnin' Chrome 03 Cobra wheels wrapped in 18x9 Kumho Supra Ecsta's. I'm running som Aluminum American Racing 14" wrapped in like a 225/14/60 I don't really care for um but they came with the car and the look decent. Eventually wanna switch up to some 17" Cobra R's
 
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the stock 99 and up mustangs around hear all run like 8.9 for the 5 speed and 9.1 for the automatics. It took me alot of mods to be able to beat them in the 1/8. Even after that I never really pulled on them till I bought a set of heads.
 

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If your buddy knows how to drive your going to see his taillights pretty quick...I had a 2000 Gt (mods in sig) and now I have a 93 LX (with much more mods) and it is still slower than the 2000 GT...a stock 5.0 vs. a stock 99+GT the 99+ will win in every category...off the line, topend, and handling...

Just look in my sig...the 2000 GT was still faster...your best bet is to make it a short run...but if the guy can launch his 00...then you will lose...I've owned both...I know...
 
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IF he is putting down more rubber than you are, then like everyone has been saying you are going to have to get the launch on him. The 3.73 will help you but you have to get off the line quick.

When are you going to race him?
 

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Another friend of mine today showed up a 04 aniversary GT today 4 times at various speeds. I think his mods are light lx, tremac tko,306, e303,typhoon,70maf,24#,373s,all the free mods, nittos and a good tune

GIve it a shot, today was hillarious
 

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you cant beet him butt i could .....just messin with ya give it a try like mad max says give it a shot wut do you have to lose
 

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I've beat stock 99+ GT's with a basically stock lx 5.0.
 

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A stock 5spd 5.0 vs. a stock 5spd 99+ Gt...the 99+ will win everytime considering they both have good drivers...
 
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Maybe if they were stock but you could do some simple stuff to a stock 5.0 that could better your chances in beating a 99....

Silencer, spare tires, fog light assembly and run the car on a couple gallons of gas.

Cant wait to hear the results about the race
 

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Stalone93GT said:
Maybe if they were stock but you could do some simple stuff to a stock 5.0 that could better your chances in beating a 99....

Silencer, spare tires, fog light assembly and run the car on a couple gallons of gas.

Cant wait to hear the results about the race
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Having owned both...I wouldn't even worry about any 5.0 stock or what you mentioned done to it...

Look at my sig...with all that on the 93...it still isn't as quick as my 2000 was...
 
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Blown_Fox said:
not looking good? Are 5.0's really that slow that even modded they won't run with the 4.6's ?
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Mines does. and it's an AODE
EDIT get some nitrous.
 

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I may be wrong but a 87+ 5.0 is 225hp compared to 260hp for the 99+ GT, torque is basically the same. With a catback, h-pipe, silencer out, timing bumped, and maybe 100lbs thrown out of the car the 5.0 should have a very good chance. An LX 5.0 should also be about 250lbs lighter than a 99+GT.
 

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H2O said:
I may be wrong but a 87+ 5.0 is 225hp compared to 260hp for the 99+ GT, torque is basically the same. With a catback, h-pipe, silencer out, timing bumped, and maybe 100lbs thrown out of the car the 5.0 should have a very good chance. An LX 5.0 should also be about 250lbs lighter than a 99+GT.
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My 2000 Gt weighed 50lbs more than my lx...but my 00 had HEAVY chrome 17x9 in. rims all around...

You have also got to make up for the gear ratio...the 99+ had 327's stock where as the 87-93 lx's...usually had the 273's...

5spd (87-93) vs. 5spd (99+)...the fox will dyno 185-190rwhp stock on average and a 99+ will dyno 230 rwhp stock on average...you got to make up for that and gear ratio...

Stock 5.0 will trap 95-96 on average...and 99+ will get 99-101...
 

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i think it'll be close but most likely you'll lose (SORRY)
 

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Most 99+ GT's will run 14-14.2 with a good driver, it doesnt take much to get a 5spd 5.0 running the same times. Many people have run those times with nothing more than a gear swap....or less. If someone can't get a 5.0 running in the 14.1-14.3 range fairly easily I've gotta question their driving or the condition of the motor.
 
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