Can I go race?

lvmustanggt · Nov 25, 2007

I got my centerforce clutch done about a month ago but I have put only 250 miles so far or stop and go traffic . This nov 30 is the last day for track this year and I will like to go but every one and centerforce manual say I have to put 450-500 miles before I can put full engine power so what should I do ?

Do you think it's ok to race or just stay home an go race next year ?

Thanks in adavance

FSTNG · Nov 25, 2007

Do some extra driving

gsjohnson · Nov 25, 2007

I've never heard of that before. We raced our cars with new clutches in them all the time with no issues. I'd race it!

smokin00GT · Nov 25, 2007

gsjohnson said:
I've never heard of that before. We raced our cars with new clutches in them all the time with no issues. I'd race it!

This is the wrong answer! I would wait until next year, or do a lot of driving before the 30th. Why risk it?

2000fordstanggt · Nov 25, 2007

smokin00GT said:
This is the wrong answer! I would wait until next year, or do a lot of driving before the 30th. Why risk it?

if you really want/need to go to the track before the end of the season, youll just have to bite the extra fuel and go for a few cruises.

fast97gt · Nov 25, 2007

lvmustanggt said:
I got my centerforce clutch done about a month ago but I have put only 250 miles so far or stop and go traffic . This nov 30 is the last day for track this year and I will like to go but every one and centerforce manual say I have to put 450-500 miles before I can put full engine power so what should I do ?

Do you think it's ok to race or just stay home an go race next year ?

Thanks in adavance

i would always read and go by the distruction manual, cause im sure companys like centerforce, eldelbrock, bbk, etc. put a lot of effort and time research in finding the best way break in parts, and they relay this info to the consumer, so we get the best of the performance out of the parts we buy. so id definitly do what the manual says!!!

fobra559 · Nov 25, 2007

fast97gt said:
i would always read and go by the distruction manual, cause im sure companys like centerforce, eldelbrock, bbk, etc. put a lot of effort and time research in finding the best way break in parts, and they relay this info to the consumer, so we get the best of the performance out of the parts we buy. so id definitly do what the manual says!!!

Just wait it out man, theres no need to rush it. The track will always be there.

eliteJAE · Nov 25, 2007

get some more miles on it, and if you cant, then just stay home man, youre gonna regret racing very badly if something happens to your brand new clutch

look at it this way, you'll have a year to go FI or something and really make good numbers at the track

lvmustanggt · Nov 25, 2007

Thanks all for you suggestion . I will try to drive but if I cannot make 450-500 miles then I will just wait till next year.

Killa · Nov 26, 2007

lvmustanggt said:
Thanks all for you suggestion . I will try to drive but if I cannot make 450-500 miles then I will just wait till next year.

Just wait, its worth it.

gsjohnson · Nov 26, 2007

smokin00GT said:
This is the wrong answer! I would wait until next year, or do a lot of driving before the 30th. Why risk it?

So why don't you tell us all as to why this is the wrong answer? And I will assume that you're armed with knowledge of compounds, compositions and coefficients relating to clutch disc makeups. A quick call to Centerforce will tell you why this break in is recommended. The same coefficient friction theories apply to brake pads when bedding them in, both of which can be accomplished in less than 15 minutes. Please don't make a firm contradictory statement of which you obviously know very little about. And you have obviously never owned or maintained a race car.

Novanutcase · Nov 26, 2007

gsjohnson said:
So why don't you tell us all as to why this is the wrong answer? And I will assume that you armed with knowledge of componds, compositions and coefficients relating to clutch disc makeups. A quick call to Centerforce will tell you why this break in is recommended. The same coefficient friction theories apply to brake pads when bedding them in, both of which can be accomplished in less than 15 minutes. Please don't make a firm contradictory statement of which you obviously know very little about. And you have obviously never owned or maintained a race car.

gsjohnson,

You're wasting your breath! There's a lot of good info on this board but there are also a lot of members that "know it all". A lot of these guys are bench racers that have never stepped out on a track or run a true race car! Their definition of a "race car" is putting a CAI on there car.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful but gsjohnson has many years of racing under his belt so when he speaks I listen. I wish more people would speak intelligently instead of just speaking!

John

smokin00GT · Nov 26, 2007

gsjohnson said:
So why don't you tell us all as to why this is the wrong answer? And I will assume that you armed with knowledge of componds, compositions and coefficients relating to clutch disc makeups. A quick call to Centerforce will tell you why this break in is recommended. The same coefficient friction theories apply to brake pads when bedding them in, both of which can be accomplished in less than 15 minutes. Please don't make a firm contradictory statement of which you obviously know very little about. And you have obviously never owned or maintained a race car.

Manufacturers of clutches have ways to test the best possible break in for their products. How can all of them require a 500 mile break in period if it is not nessary? I have had several mustangs and have worked for a large mustang parts distributor. I would never give ill advise on rushing the break in process. You have insinuated that I have no idea what I am talking about. If this is true, then why do I have one of the highest horsepower cars on this forum? Brake pads, and clutches are two different parts, and there for perform a different function and require a different break in. Manufactureres also will not warranty a clutch that has not been properly broken in. They will test it to find the cause of failure.

superhawkman · Nov 26, 2007

go for it

I have a Centerforce Dual friction clutch and I did not put the recommended mileage on my clutch before I went to the strip. That was in April and I have since made 30 plus runs and it still hooks perfect. I made my last run of the season a couple of weeks ago and went 12.09 at 116mph. No chatter on the street either.

gsjohnson · Nov 26, 2007

smokin00GT said:
Manufacturers of clutches have ways to test the best possible break in for their products. How can all of them require a 500 mile break in period if it is not nessary? I have had several mustangs and have worked for a large mustang parts distributor. I would never give ill advise on rushing the break in process. You have insinuated that I have no idea what I am talking about. If this is true, then why do I have one of the highest horsepower cars on this forum? Brake pads, and clutches are two different parts, and there for perform a different function and require a different break in. Manufactureres also will not warranty a clutch that has not been properly broken in. They will test it to find the cause of failure.

Horsepower=Knowledge?
I've seen many a driver who had more car than talent,
but okay I give, you da man

smokin00GT · Nov 26, 2007

gsjohnson said:
Horsepower=Knowledge?
I've seen many a driver who had more car than talent,
but okay I give, you da man

Shows how much you know:
I have my car for fun, not as a daily driver like many on this forum. I race for fun, not professionally. I have done most of the modding myself, which I believe makes me qualifyed enough to give informed advise. Driving the car at high RPM before the break in will lead to premature clutch failure. May not fail the first time, or with in the first year. In my opinion they are too expensive to ruin. Oh, and by the way I am a woman

2000fordstanggt · Nov 26, 2007

smokin00GT said:
Shows how much you know:
I have my car for fun, not as a daily driver like many on this forum. I race for fun, not professionally. I have done most of the modding myself, which I believe makes me qualifyed enough to give informed advise. Driving the car at high RPM before the break in will lead to premature clutch failure. May not fail the first time, or with in the first year. In my opinion they are too expensive to ruin. Oh, and by the way I am a woman

you tell 'em.

btw- these are street/dd cars, not race cars.

gsjohnson · Nov 26, 2007

smokin00GT said:
Shows how much you know:
I have my car for fun, not as a daily driver like many on this forum. I race for fun, not professionally. I have done most of the modding myself, which I believe makes me qualifyed enough to give informed advise. Driving the car at high RPM before the break in will lead to premature clutch failure. May not fail the first time, or with in the first year. In my opinion they are too expensive to ruin. Oh, and by the way I am a woman

Well now, that explains it. There's no need to come off so forceful. You directly quoted me as giving incorrect information. I didn't do that. I only stated my opinion. Relax and obsorb all the info you can. Opinions are fine, but be careful of who you confront. You never know who is hiding behind their handle names. By the way, the coefficient friction properties function under the same principles as the brake pads do.

lvmustanggt · Nov 26, 2007

smokin00GT said:
Shows how much you know:
I have my car for fun, not as a daily driver like many on this forum. I race for fun, not professionally. I have done most of the modding myself, which I believe makes me qualifyed enough to give informed advise. Driving the car at high RPM before the break in will lead to premature clutch failure. May not fail the first time, or with in the first year. In my opinion they are too expensive to ruin. Oh, and by the way I am a woman

You go girl

gsjohnson · Nov 26, 2007

smokin00GT said:
Shows how much you know:
I have my car for fun, not as a daily driver like many on this forum. I race for fun, not professionally. I have done most of the modding myself:

This is the exact reason that Centerforce recommends a clutch break-in. Most self proclaimed experts really don't have a clue, so they treat everyone like a novice. This protects against customer complaints and helps insure their product's reputation.
I joined this site, not to spout off my knowledge, but to gain knowledge. I don't need to regurgitate my credentials. I installed my first Procharger a few weeks ago and I encountered a couple of problems. Not having the experience in this area, I figured that there were many here who knew more about the subject than I did. But, instead of just taking from this site and dissappearing, I thought that I could give advise in some areas that I may have some knowledge in. Never did I want to be confrontational, nor condescending. But, as I have found out, some members practice that style of posting and it is accepted here. I now see why one member stated, I was wasting my breath. If I offended anyone, you have my apologies.

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