If this is a preview of the kind of "tech" "contribution" you're going to make, may I suggest a redirect to Mustangworld.com
that was funny as hell! and VERY true
If this is a preview of the kind of "tech" "contribution" you're going to make, may I suggest a redirect to Mustangworld.com
After recently doing tons of research on the best upper/lower control arms for the money, I ended up going with UPR's Elite Chrome Moly Urethane Control Arms.
http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-chrome-moly-rear-control-arm-suspension-kit.html
I also had my torque boxes seam welded, installed some FFRP "C" Springs, and Tokico Blues at the same time, and have no complaints so far!
If this is a preview of the kind of "tech" "contribution" you're going to make, may I suggest a redirect to Mustangworld.com
Hmmmm (again)
UCA's = Upper Control Arms.
LCA's = Lower control arms.
Where is there room left for RCA's?
Could it be:
1.Reinforced Control Arms?
2.Rebuilt Control Arms?
3.Rusty Control Arms?
4.Retarded Control Arms?
or Chinee pronunciation for Rower Controw Ahhms?
OHHH,......he mean't those RCA's,.........
My torque box isnt even knocking. I know many people have had this problem, but I must have gotten lucky with mine because mine were cheap knockoffs made by Summit but they work great. The Ford C springs seemed to affect my ride quality more negatively than the RCA's. My point was that anytime you go changing things on your car you throw other things out of whack and usually end up having to change those too. This is performance modding.
And yes, I could care less about this forum. I seen a hundred of em and everyone thinks they know everything. I am just contributing my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. Maybe yours was different. Maybe you bought a crappy part. Maybe your suspension was crap when you did your RCA's. I dunno, and neither do you obviously.
So you come here asking for advice, and in your third post slam the board? Glad you could care less as I doubt anyone is going to offer you help in the future.
Been away a few days doing other things..come back to read this thread...LOL. Dude I understand what damage beating your car at the track etc, modifying it can cause. The point was that the control arms that were the topic of discussion were considered the best thing since sliced bread for a Fox body for traction back in the day (You know, back when your mom was combing your hair for church) and if WE Fox body owners that were not only driving but racing back then knew what the design would cause in the line of torque box damage, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THEM.Anytime you stiffen your suspension, you are causing more stress to your undercarriage and to your passengers butts.
You pay the price to play the game. You can get torque box covers to protect it if you feel better about it. If you wan't longevity, consider a Toyota Camry or a Honda Civic
My torque box isnt even knocking. I know many people have had this problem, but I must have gotten lucky with mine because mine were cheap knockoffs made by Summit but they work great. The Ford C springs seemed to affect my ride quality more negatively than the RCA's. My point was that anytime you go changing things on your car you throw other things out of whack and usually end up having to change those too. This is performance modding.
And yes, I could care less about this forum. I seen a hundred of em and everyone thinks they know everything. I am just contributing my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. Maybe yours was different. Maybe you bought a crappy part. Maybe your suspension was crap when you did your RCA's. I dunno, and neither do you obviously.
And yes, I could care less about this forum. I seen a hundred of em and everyone thinks they know everything.
Sharad
Let me know when you guys get a Fox, street/strip suspension PACKAGE together. One that has been tuned and tested (and tweaked) to operate as a kit. One that lists its benefits and limitations for a specific application. I for one, am NOT a suspension genius nor do I own a race team that will tune it for me. I definitely prefer something that I can install in the drieway and maybe take down the road to get it aligned. Pieces and parts (to me) don't make a suspension regardless of how many times Buddy Rawls Racing (or whomever) made it down the track with a set of lowers.
what are you looking for in the suspension? make it handle better or make the car go up on the bumper?
The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less". Saying that you could care less indicates that you do care for the forum and that it is possible for you to care less about the forum. We do appreciate that you do care about the forum and hope that you don't care less in the future.
Sharad
Let me know when you guys get a Fox, street/strip suspension PACKAGE together. One that has been tuned and tested (and tweaked) to operate as a kit. One that lists its benefits and limitations for a specific application. I for one, am NOT a suspension genius nor do I own a race team that will tune it for me. I definitely prefer something that I can install in the drieway and maybe take down the road to get it aligned. Pieces and parts (to me) don't make a suspension regardless of how many times Buddy Rawls Racing (or whomever) made it down the track with a set of lowers.
Hell if I knew all of that, I would quit my job and do THAT for a living. That's what I look for in R&D from a company I purchase suspension though. Well... that and the ability to explain to someone with at least some sort of mechanical background.
Very simple.
We separate our suspension packages into front & rear packages. For a street-strip Fox, we recommend our Pro Series front suspension and Pro Street rear suspension. It hooks exceptionally well, but with poly bushings on one end of every control arm, NVH is kept to a reasonable level.
Here is the front end package:
http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-pro-series-chrome-moly-k-member-kit-79.html
And here is the rear end package:
http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-chrome-moly-adjustable-pro-street-control-arm-package-79.html
Actually, you know what? I really appreciate your input because for some reason, your post made me look at this situation differently. As I was listing this package above, it occurred to me that I need to list the dampeners, cc-plates, and housing bushings in addition to the packages above, so in a sense, they aren't really like one complete package. I'm not saying that our a la cart approach to suspension sales is not good, but I do acknowledge that some people prefer to order one package, like one complete Pro Street or Pro Series package. I just sent an email to my boss to see if he wants to put something together.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Regarding R&D, we don't do any super trick FEA or 3D modeling or whatever. What we do is fabricate our parts, put them on our own vehicles, beat them to death, and if they survive that torture test then we offer them to the public with a Lifetime Guarantee. It's not as fancy as some manufacturers' design processes, but it's effective!
For the average speed freak/driveway mechanic, yeah... a complete package setup that has been tested to be tried and true for straight track, road course, and street/strip with X HP, or whatever the circumstance, is the kind of thing I'm talking about. I mean... I get it about straight track... Build it tough and allow for weight transfer. The others are bit more complicated and I'll admit that the last time I used a slide ruler, angle dial, or compass, was in geometry class. What's more is most lack knowing what those settings should be regardless if they know how to use the tools.
As for the R&D well... A lot of that can be gotten from the race teams that use your parts in their apps and tweak and tune in the process of getting it right.