Deep Dish bullitts on a 65...how??

CaliKev · May 5, 2008

I came across this car on ebay and fell in love with the wheels. I've always like the deep dish in the rear, but thought there just wasn't enough room on the 65.

Take a look:

http://www.specialtysales.com/1965-ford-mustang-2+2-c-1397.htm

How would I be able to do this on my 65?

Thanks!
Kevin

golf4283 · May 5, 2008

Just order a set of Bulllitts with wicked backspacing. Thats all you really have to do. I don't think you would need to narrow the rear end or anything. The reason they're so deep is because they're probably wide tires and the person didn't want to use a spacer or wheel adapter.

deltascrew · May 5, 2008

I have 17" X 8" rims on the back of my 65 with 4½" backspacing. They have a deep lip. I did have to trim the rear fender lip though.

eleanor_350 · May 6, 2008

deltascrew said:
I have 17" X 8" rims on the back of my 65 with 4½" backspacing. They have a deep lip. I did have to trim the rear fender lip though.

Deltascrew,

Just out of curiousity, was it your rim width and backspacing that required you to trim the fender lip or was it your tire size? What size tires are you running on the rear?

The car in that ebay add looked like it was running a pretty narrow tire compared to the width of the wheel. Look at how "ballooned" out the side wall looks.

deltascrew · May 6, 2008

eleanor_350 said:
Deltascrew,

Just out of curiousity, was it your rim width and backspacing that required you to trim the fender lip or was it your tire size? What size tires are you running on the rear?

I am running 245/45/17 only the tire rubs, not the rim. a 4.75 B/S rim would fit better , but Coy's only offers a 4½ b/s. even after trimming the fender lip mine still occasionally rubs, so I added air-shocks to keep it from bottoming out.

if you went with 225/45/17 you would probably not have a problem

deltascrew · May 6, 2008

This looks like the wheel on the fastback

View attachment 318707

it is a 17" x 10.5 wheel with 6.85 b/s

at 10½" wide thats why the tire looks stretched. from the pic it looks llike the tire is a 255.

its definitely a TIGHT fit. I would imagine that it rubs

Cobra ssc · May 6, 2008

Deltascrew - can you post some pics of the rear wheels fitment?

deltascrew · May 7, 2008

Cobra ssc said:
Deltascrew - can you post some pics of the rear wheels fitment?

I'll try to snap you a couple pics tonight

DarkoStoj · May 7, 2008

if you want wheels with a larger dish you're going to need a smaller rear axle. I am ordering a custom axle from tcp with the new rear suspension and I have the choice of how wide I want the axle to be, i'm basing my decision on what kind of dish in the rear wheels I want to get. I'm still unsure of what I like so its still up in the air

deltascrew · May 7, 2008

Cobra ssc said:
Deltascrew - can you post some pics of the rear wheels fitment?

these pics aren't that great, but here you go

these are Coys C-5 Chrome 17" X 8" 4½" B/S
with Nexen 245/45/17 tires.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mustangbrantley/1965Fastback/photo#5197810301072474306"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/mustangbrantley/SCJU7f1KgMI/AAAAAAAABRI/TCP_yOVrvYw/s800/IMG_4491.JPG" /></a>

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mustangbrantley/1965Fastback/photo#5197810399856722130"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/mustangbrantley/SCJVBP1KgNI/AAAAAAAABRU/pOBMv5WJ_e0/s800/IMG_4493.JPG" /></a>

Cobra ssc · May 8, 2008

Thanks for the pics..

How hard would it be to fit a 315 tire on a 10.5 wide rim on a 65'66 Mustang_

dodgestang · May 8, 2008

Cobra ssc said:
Thanks for the pics..

How hard would it be to fit a 315 tire on a 10.5 wide rim on a 65'66 Mustang_

Extremely hard since the stock wheel wells only have 11 or so inches in width

Cobra ssc · May 8, 2008

dodgestang said:
Extremely hard since the stock wheel wells only have 11 or so inches in width

So that would leave .25" space on each side of the wheel...no problem. I guess a mini-tub would be in order.

I have heard that even with a mini-tub, the the inside panels and rear seat will not fit anymore. Has anyone done this a so are there any and if so are there any pics of the process?

dodgestang · May 8, 2008

Cobra ssc said:
So that would leave .25" space on each side of the wheel...no problem. I guess a mini-tub would be in order.

I have heard that even with a mini-tub, the the inside panels and rear seat will not fit anymore. Has anyone done this a so are there any and if so are there any pics of the process?

Your math has forgotten to take into account the section width of the tire mounted on the rim which is 12.5-13 inches. Which means your frame rails would need to move a MIN of something like 2.5-3 inches to get it all under the sheetmetal of the car....which is a little more involved than a mini tub.

Cobra ssc · May 8, 2008

dodgestang said:
Your math has forgotten to take into account the section width of the tire mounted on the rim which is 12.5-13 inches. Which means your frame rails would need to move a MIN of something like 2.5-3 inches to get it all under the sheetmetal of the car....which is a little more involved than a mini tub.

So you are saying that it would be more of a back-half car then...

I'll need to figure out something to get more rubber on the road.

dodgestang · May 9, 2008

how much power are you planning?

I have a 410 stroker and at the track the 275 drag radials provide plenty of traction with no spin.

D.Hearne · May 9, 2008

While it's not a 65-66 Stang, it's close, here's a link to pics of my 77 Comet with 295/50/15's on Wheel Vintiques 15x10 series 35's. These wheels have a 5 inch backspace and all I had to do was roll the fender lips to clear. http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p53/baddad457/

CaliKev · May 9, 2008

So I went down to Specialty to see the car yesterday and the rear's are actually 18's and the front are 17's. The rear tires are really streched on the wheels (as you can see by the pictures). The rear tires were 255/35/18 (fronts were 235/40/17) and I could see where the guy cut notches in 2 places on each leaf spring in order for the tires to fit. Also looked like he made some extra room in the wheel well.

Cobra ssc · May 9, 2008

dodgestang said:
how much power are you planning?

I have a 410 stroker and at the track the 275 drag radials provide plenty of traction with no spin.

I have a 347 with a vortech and methanol injection which is over 600 to the rear wheels. My 95 Cobra had less power with 315 drag radials and more suspension work and still wouldn't hook up until 3rd gear, depending road conditions. The 65 is lighter with less rubber on the ground. I guess I could run some 15" wheels with stickier compound tires.

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