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CobraRed_96_GT

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"These are the only control arms available that have spherical bearings at both ends, and yet do not require a coil-over conversion kit. MM's Engineering Team solved the problem of keeping the control arm upright, stable, and aligned with the chassis, when the springs are left in the stock location. We did this by designing a urethane "bumper" that is located around the spherical bearing, between the chassis and the end of the control arm. The bumpers are at only one end of the control arm, the chassis end. The bumpers keep the control arms aligned with the chassis, but are not so stiff as to cause an increase in suspension bind. The large Teflon-lined spherical bearings at both ends of the MM Extreme-Duty control arms completely eliminate the deflection allowed by urethane bushings during hard launches. This reduces axle windup, and allows the car to react more quickly. Unlike more commonly used bushing materials such as hard urethane, Delrin, or steel, spherical bearings allow proper articulation of the rear suspension. This eliminates torque box damage caused by suspension bind."
 

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CobraRed_96_GT said:
pm'd, but i forgot you'll need the 99+ ones - which might be a diff price. You need the MMRLCA-31 ones
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They are $340 for my year. Have to save $30 more
 

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fobra559 said:
They are $340 for my year. Have to save $30 more
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might be cheaper than a $30 difference from the guy i pm'd you
 

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CobraRed_96_GT said:
might be cheaper than a $30 difference from the guy i pm'd you
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I hope so, thanks for the info man.
 

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The Mustang tuner near me runs stock Ford uppers on his notch. His best 1/4 mile was in the 9's. That is enough proof to me not to buy them for my Cobra. I have them on my notch, but I got a nice deal on all 4.
 

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Yeah the broke UPR uppers were on my buddies car. He called upr and told them what happened and they never called him back or anything. I would never buy any cheap control arms especially from UPR. He didn't have many miles on them. I would go with a set Like MM or maybe BMR. They look like they have good products. I know the camaros and firebirds have good luck with BMR. http://www.bmrfabrication.com/Mustang.htm
 

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CobraRed_96_GT said:
yeah i hear mostly good things about the adjustable UPR UCA's, just the solid UCA's by them haven't turned out well:


Why are you going UCA's anyway? That will take a lot away from your daily driving and isn't often needed
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Maybe I shouldn't 'quote' other sites, instead just Italic them, since the webquote doesn't get quoted
 

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40oz said:
"The MM Extreme-Duty Rear Lower Control Arms should be used for any form of drag racing. Repeated standing-start launches will eventually damage urethane bushings"

I think that is funny. What do people do at the start of autocross races? Drag racing is hard on a car only at the start. Road racing/DE/autocrossing is hard on a car all the time. I'm not knocking MM parts, but


Why sell parts for a street Mustang that can't take repeated hard standing starts? If it can't take what the stockers can take, why should I buy it? For the bushings?
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That was my point....MM parts are top notch, but they shouldnt make the HD's period IMO. Its not like my car is some crazy 600 rwhp monster...were talkin bout 287 rwhp. Its funny too, because Im always raving about how good MM's parts are, & really they are the best, but the HD's suck if u launch, or drive your car hard because they will eventually blow out...The stock rubber bushings will hold up to agressive launches better than the poly HD ones will, but they will wear out quicker over the years. BUt no matter what, the HD's are still better quality than all the other junk LCA's out there like BBK, UPR, Granatelli, etc....

Its not too expensive or hard to change the bushings on the HD's though, but it is a hassle...
 

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I think Im just gonna have my axle tubes welded, and maybe take a look at the torque boxes as well. What kind of sixty foots do you all think 290-310rwhp with stock suspension on slicks can pull? Im guessing mid 1.7's.
 

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I think mid to high 1.7's sound about right. Are you looking at torque box reinforcement kits?
 

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Winters98GT said:
I think Im just gonna have my axle tubes welded, and maybe take a look at the torque boxes as well. What kind of sixty foots do you all think 290-310rwhp with stock suspension on slicks can pull? Im guessing mid 1.7's.
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My buddy has a fox body with stock boxed control arms, strange 10 way adjustables, cut stock springs, & MT ET streets, & he pulls consistent 1.6 60 ft times...

definitely reinforce those torque boxes though...
 

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EPIKGT said:
My buddy has a fox body with stock boxed control arms, strange 10 way adjustables, cut stock springs, & MT ET streets, & he pulls consistent 1.6 60 ft times...

definitely reinforce those torque boxes though...
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how much HP/tq does the guy have? Ive seen fox body cars rip some nasty sixty foot times with not much power. Is the car stock on the front end, k member?
 

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how much HP/tq does the guy have? Ive seen fox body cars rip some nasty sixty foot times with not much power. Is the car stock on the front end, k member?
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Not sure, but his car has a 306 with AFR 185's, holley systemax intake, & an S Trim...Also has a tubular K member, a arms & front coilovers with lakewoods up front, but a stock as a rock rear suspension with the exception of the strange 10 ways & boxed control arms. He consistetly ran 10.6 on the stock bottom end, but has since stepped up to the 306 with forged internals... Here is a vid of his car with the stock bottom end & stock T5 runnin 10.68 @ 131... Hes hoping for low 10's with the new combo.....I 4 got 2 mention...MY BUDDY CAN DRIVE!!!!!


Video clip....10.68 @ 131....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHv0kSdYbcw



Heres a couple of pics of his car (it was primered & under construction still at the time of that video)...He just ordered the new fox Saleen dd replicas in 17x8 7 17x10...his car is gonna look bad@$$ & kick major @$$ on the track next summer....
 

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very nice car, epik, thanks for the info. However, that 306 and s trim launching is not like an na 2v. Glad he got a paint job on that thing. It look sick!
 

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Winters98GT said:
very nice car, epik, thanks for the info. However, that 306 and s trim launching is not like an na 2v. Glad he got a paint job on that thing. It look sick!
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4 sure, but just thought I would show u whats possible on stock rear suspension & GREAT driving...Me, im all about aftermarket suspension parts & my 2.1 60ft sucks...LOL!!! Good luck....
 

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thanks man! You have an awesome pair of horses in your stable!
 

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thanks man! You have an awesome pair of horses in your stable!
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No problem....Thanks, I appreciate that.....i wouldnt trade them 4 anything, not even a terminator. Well..... I guess the 95 could go, but the Mach is here to stay....
 

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Had to bring this back

You guys think LCA's are needed for my car with the mods I currently have in my sig? I know I'm not putting down huge #'s.
 

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You guys think LCA's are needed for my car with the mods I currently have in my sig? I know I'm not putting down huge #'s.
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Nope, unless you have specific goals at the track and you wanna run some real tread
If your set on some suspension go FL SFC's
 
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