Searching the local parts houses the cheapest I found was $4.00 a foot!! I about fell over. I called a local hose and rubber shop, and they have Goodyear insta grip I think they called it. Anyways it is desgined for fuel and is rated at 300 psi and is only 1.30 a foot. Anyone see a problem using that rather then the EFI rated stuff?
EFI fuel line is spendy!!!!!!!!
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LMan
Founding Member
can you not use aluminum line? Scummit sells it in 25ft rolls for ~1.25 foot, IIRC (swag there, big time).
red65
Member
Hard line (aluminum or steel) or at least braided hose (which you're not going to like the price on either) is better by far. High-pressure EFI pumps make a big (and flammable) mess really quickly when a hose springs a leak. Hoses under the car are prone to damage from all kinds of debris - you should really minimize the length of plain hose you install... fwiw. 
FORCED2DV8
New Member
I have used it before but only on a car where i could run it thru the frame rails, offering some protection, Since we have no frame I would use braided or the hard line, Its either pay now or maybe pay alot later.
68rustang
Active Member
www.mcmaster.com has something very similar to the GoodYear Insta-Grip. I couldn't find anybody that would sell less than 100ft of the GY stuff.
Search for "push on hose" and look at the High pressure Buna N stuff.
Search for "push on hose" and look at the High pressure Buna N stuff.
just use summit aluminum hardline. sure you'll spend some money on fittings, but it's the only way to fly.
reenmachine
20+ Year Stangneter 
I have used Insta-Grip for EFI fuel line and it works great. It's extremely tough as well and the push-on (socketless) fittings are nice, and less expensive than regular AN fittings. Contact Ron Morris Performance for fuel system stuff -- he's my source for a lot of it and he really knows EFI fuel systems.roan65 said:
txwoody
Member
Here is the good year link for the stuff I'm talking about.
http://www.goodyearindustrialproduc...ialhose/view_product_detail.pl?product_ID=194
http://www.goodyearindustrialproduc...ialhose/view_product_detail.pl?product_ID=194
reenmachine
20+ Year Stangneter
The Insta-Grip isn't like factory line, but Ron Morris sells the plastic factory-type EFI line and the fittings for it as well. I think it's also a pretty cheap and dependable solution.txwoody said:
1320stang
Founding Member
Edbert, I think you may have some rubbing issues. I suggest that you use some split rubber hose over your line at contact or potential contact points.
I've also used rubber lined Adel clamps before.
Unless the zip tie method is just temporary, then carry on!
I've also used rubber lined Adel clamps before.
Unless the zip tie method is just temporary, then carry on!
reenmachine
20+ Year Stangneter
Ditto this post, and...
Also make sure that the flare nut is not resting on the frame (aluminum line to stainless hose).
You also want to turn that one tie rod sleave clamp so that it too has the bolt over the split in the sleave.
I like the blue anodized fuel line. Looks cool. What did you do to protect the aluminum flair from corrosion where it seats with the stainless braded hose fitting?
Scott.
1320stang said:Edbert, I think you may have some rubbing issues. I suggest that you use some split rubber hose over your line at contact or potential contact points.
I've also used rubber lined Adel clamps before.
Unless the zip tie method is just temporary, then carry on!
Also make sure that the flare nut is not resting on the frame (aluminum line to stainless hose).
You also want to turn that one tie rod sleave clamp so that it too has the bolt over the split in the sleave.
I like the blue anodized fuel line. Looks cool. What did you do to protect the aluminum flair from corrosion where it seats with the stainless braded hose fitting?
Scott.
Rubbing is a possibility where the line goes under the torque box, I'll look into isolating it with rubber or foam. I dont see any issue with the zip ties along the SFC, those I don't intend to change. The one on the fender is a temp rig, I'll use an insulated metal clamp there.
There is rubber peice sandwiched in between the stainless and the aluminum on that AN fitting. Wish I had some pictures of it before I put it together, but it is made for this very type of connection. In fact there's no flare at all, I grooved it instead. That might be an issue with the high line pressures of EFI but I am running a mechanical fuel pump and this fitting is rated to 25psi.
Here's the part I bought:
Here's the instruction page:
http://www.holley.com/BrowseCatalogs.asp?Catalog=Earls&Page=23
There is rubber peice sandwiched in between the stainless and the aluminum on that AN fitting. Wish I had some pictures of it before I put it together, but it is made for this very type of connection. In fact there's no flare at all, I grooved it instead. That might be an issue with the high line pressures of EFI but I am running a mechanical fuel pump and this fitting is rated to 25psi.
Here's the part I bought:
Here's the instruction page:
http://www.holley.com/BrowseCatalogs.asp?Catalog=Earls&Page=23
Not what I'd use for EFI
I'd think seriously if you are going to run EFI pressures with that fitting. Any reason why you don't want to just flare the line?
The tie raps won't stop movement and you'll get rub wear. Drive it for a a few days then look it over. You can always make changes.
I prefer not to have the fuel line quite that exposed due to the extreme conditions, and tech inspections, that the car faces.
YMMV.
Scott
I'd think seriously if you are going to run EFI pressures with that fitting. Any reason why you don't want to just flare the line?
The tie raps won't stop movement and you'll get rub wear. Drive it for a a few days then look it over. You can always make changes.
I prefer not to have the fuel line quite that exposed due to the extreme conditions, and tech inspections, that the car faces.
YMMV.
Scott
Tim65GT
Active Member
originally posted by Edbert:
I know there are varying grades and quality among zip ties. Here in the desert southwest, you'd be lucky to get away with a year before they dry, harden and crack.
Underneath you have other thing to consider also such as heat and road debris.
As long as you keep an eye on 'em ... heck they may last a long time.
I know there are varying grades and quality among zip ties. Here in the desert southwest, you'd be lucky to get away with a year before they dry, harden and crack.
Underneath you have other thing to consider also such as heat and road debris.
As long as you keep an eye on 'em ... heck they may last a long time.
68converted
Member
I have specific interest in this issue. This is what I have been researching as this is the next step in my project. 10secgoal said that the plastic efi line is not track legal. I spoke with four diff. racing shops and not one of them said that the line would cause a "DQ by tech." Infact two of the guys drive cars with Ford specific EFI line. 
After checking prices all over the place, Ron Morris has the best deal overall for bulk Ford EFI line/connectors that I could find. The dealerships only sell it in rolls of 50' and the connectors in bulk pack. Too much for me.
Although after pricing everything out I think I'm going to go with the High Pressure efi rubber line. It just seems like after all the connectors and line, it will work out to the same relative price? Unless someone can find it for a great price. Also, looking at the inside diameter of that line, I am not sure it can deliver enough fuel for a modded motor with a supercharger. Anyone?
After checking prices all over the place, Ron Morris has the best deal overall for bulk Ford EFI line/connectors that I could find. The dealerships only sell it in rolls of 50' and the connectors in bulk pack. Too much for me.
Although after pricing everything out I think I'm going to go with the High Pressure efi rubber line. It just seems like after all the connectors and line, it will work out to the same relative price? Unless someone can find it for a great price. Also, looking at the inside diameter of that line, I am not sure it can deliver enough fuel for a modded motor with a supercharger. Anyone?
hey 68 i just used steel line from the parts house and rubber bound clamps got most of my fittings from work but im sure u could buy everything i used for bout 75$
(just a side note the stock plastic ford fuel line will fit a 5/16 compression fitting if u use the insert out of a 3/8 compression fitting mine has 22,000 miles and over 2 years with no problems )
(just a side note the stock plastic ford fuel line will fit a 5/16 compression fitting if u use the insert out of a 3/8 compression fitting mine has 22,000 miles and over 2 years with no problems )
