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Makdaddymac

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Hey all,
rumor has it FL will be testing identical to CA standards real real soon. probably around 2010 or so......

Ok here is my concern. I have no idea what is needed to pass? my car isnt MAF, i am running off road x( i know this is a problem)((but i kept my stock catted mid pipe hehe) also i kept my egr stuff on my car and kep everything stock with my gt40 heads which had the egr piping provision(95 cobra heads) so what is going to be the deal. How does all this emission stuff work? i have no idea cause i am a FL boy born and raised.........Should i just insure my mustang and start driving it while i still can? or what?

 

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lang williams

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my advise: elect more republicans. if you're lucky they will only go back 20 years on testing. Ohio goes back 25 so my 84 stang will be exempt next year. the crazy thing is only 7 counties have the testing, so people that live 5 miles west of me don't have to be tested ever an they've never had it in Columbus where all the state leaders live so they never had to deal with it.

 

Beasty306GT

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move to MA...we dont have emmisions for 94 and older anymore...got rid of the sniffer

 

bynummustang

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That sucks.

 

5.0Torx

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yeah im in missouri and we used to test OBD1 fuelie cars but now its OBD2 only. And i had just shelled out $300 for a catted X.

FWIW though, the catted X from UPR passed way better than the stock H did. New cats ftw

 

Bay_Stang

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im a smog tech in california, what do u mean by "ur car isnt MAF" like it had it originally and u took it off or what. and as the x pipe thing goes i have my stock one sittin in the shed i only put it on when i need it. basically if the cats are there all the vacuum lines are connected to there proper devices, meaning EGR, AIR, EVAP, the works, then ur good to go. gimme some more details and maybe i can help some more. also ur check engine light needs to illuminate with the key on and go out once the engine is running, if it stays on thats an automatic fail

 

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Makdaddymac

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no my car is an 88 non cali car so its Speed Density and MY Check Engine Light is a dummy meaning there never was one in 88's if i remember correctly? everything works and plugged in......i do have an egr valve code but ill fix that one day.

 

Mustang5L5

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Well you will have to fix the code now as any codes in the system is an automatic fail.

Just give it a good tune up, toss the cats back on, back timing 10 degrees and they drive the hell out of it and get it blazing hot before going in for the test

 

sgw_88FoxGT

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How's driving it around and getting it heated up help?

 

TwoToneHatch

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sgw_88FoxGT said:

How's driving it around and getting it heated up help?

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Cats work better when they are warmed up.

 

ID89GT

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Make sure all your sensors are good and working too.

 

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Here in Colorado (Denver metro area only) we have two types of test. Newer cars are put on roller kinda like a chassis dyno and tested under simulated driving as well as at idle. Older cars (not sure but I think the cutoff year is 1988) just have a tailpipe test at idle and 2500RPM. Both are supposed to pass a visual test as well where you would fail for missing parts like cats, EGR system, Evap system, etc. Visual test is spotty, they usually just look under the car with a mirror to check the exhaust system but if they want can check under the hood too. My biggest gripe is headers = fail visual unless they have a C.A.R.B. exemption which hardly any do. Good thing you saved those cats they are expensive.

 

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Makdaddymac

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i dount they will have an a obd1 scanner. but who knows if tehye xempt 20 year old cars im good!

 

Bullitt347

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Mustang5L5 said:

Well you will have to fix the code now as any codes in the system is an automatic fail.

Just give it a good tune up, toss the cats back on, back timing 10 degrees and they drive the hell out of it and get it blazing hot before going in for the test

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Actually, only '96 and up OBD2 cars auto fail because of codes, or a CEL light on. Anything older and the CEL (service engine soon) light can be on all day and it is not a auto fail. It actually has to fail the sniff part of the test, or maybe gas cap test, depending on state, to get a fail notice. Cars older than 1996 can have a CEL light for non emissions related items, plus the scan tool connector is different for all of the different makes of cars. So the test stations only check for codes on '96 and newer, because they all use the same connector (OBD2). It would be to much of a time waster and logistics nightmare to have all of the different connectors and different scan tools for all of the different cars. Plus finding the location of the connector from one car to the next.
My '94 Topaz had the CEL light on, it passed the sniff test, and gas cap test ect. and it passed despite the CEL being on.
And Washington uses California emissions standards (in theory)!