[QUOTE='01SilverBullet]Listen Excon, I get a laugh at your posts and don't take you seriously 90% of the time, but dude this is untrue. Nobody has ever argued that. And for that matter, I can't recall BMW's period coming up very often in your attacks.
Oh for the record, let me dad drive my car last night. He's owned 3 BMW's, a '58 Vette (yeah in 1959) a 911, an RX-7, a Lexus GS 400 (2 of them), an SC 400, an SC 430 (my mom's car), and currently has a Mercedes C 32, and he was surprised how tight and well the Stang handled. He said it was also a lot more fun to drive than his Mercedes, and a huge step up from my '01. So to each his own.[/QUOTE]
Speaking as a owner of a BMW and belonging to a BMW forum, I find the Bimmer (and don’t call it Beamer in their presents because a Beamer is the motorcycle) people in general are snobbish. What I find funny many of them, their parents bought the car for them.
I would venture to say well over half of them I would not want to sit with to have a beer.
Oh for the record, let me dad drive my car last night. He's owned 3 BMW's, a '58 Vette (yeah in 1959) a 911, an RX-7, a Lexus GS 400 (2 of them), an SC 400, an SC 430 (my mom's car), and currently has a Mercedes C 32, and he was surprised how tight and well the Stang handled. He said it was also a lot more fun to drive than his Mercedes, and a huge step up from my '01. So to each his own.[/QUOTE]
Speaking as a owner of a BMW and belonging to a BMW forum, I find the Bimmer (and don’t call it Beamer in their presents because a Beamer is the motorcycle) people in general are snobbish. What I find funny many of them, their parents bought the car for them.
I would venture to say well over half of them I would not want to sit with to have a beer.
I'm sure you knew that. 
Seems more like you're another import lover who simply can't afford the car of his dreams.
Sorry. That said, 
this thread.
There's a long list of German cars which simply don't hold a candle to many American models. There are others which do. But this can be offset almost entirely by simply looking at the different styles, or what's attained for the money spent. When you buy a Porsche, Mercedes Benz, or BMW, you're buying a name as much as a vehicle. There's always something better for someone. A top end German car won't compare well to a top end American car here in America based on price alone. We've seen cars completely incapable of competition against it, compared to the Corvette. Most cars, made anywhere in mass, cannot compete with it, let alone based on price. Particularly, German cars have a tough time here. Step up the price to 80K and they still don't do well. This brings in the Viper, another American brand name, which keeps nearly any wouldbe competitors in total check. Step up to $150,000 and look at the Ford GT. There's literally nothing offered in its price range, from Europe or Japan or anywhere other than America that even stands a chance.
