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Progress Thread Father Time: Dyno'd 970rwhp

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FastDriver

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Yep I am open to bigger injectors.

At the point I stopped, I was making 970 rwhp at only 80-81% injector duty cycle, despite differential fuel pressure falling to about 43 psi. When I increased boost to 28 psi, rail pressure dropped to 65-66 psi, now a dilta of 38psi. The pump was clearly done. With adequate fuel delivery, I was on track for 1,100 rwhp without changing injectors.

So I've got a plan. First, swap Grover's Weldon 2035A pump into Father Time and increase base fuel pressure to 50 psi. Second, upgrade to ARP Custom Age 625+ head studs and probably replace the AFR 205s with modern heads while I'm at it. I've noticed some minor exhaust smoke that smells like oil, possibly from the rings, valve guides, or seals. I'll also have the Box-R intake properly port-matched, since I was disappointed with the previous porting work.

Third, address turbine backpressure. I'll talk with Jose at Forced Inductions about whether a 1.44 A/R housing could bring me closer to a 2:1 pressure ratio without killing spool. If necessary, I'll consider a different turbo and converting to T6.

Restoring differential fuel pressure from 43 to 50 psi alone increases injector flow about 8%. Between that, improved head sealing, and reduced backpressure, I expect to comfortably clear 1,000 rwhp on the existing injectors.

Once those issues are resolved, I'll consider a more aggressive cam, probably a solid roller with duration in the 230s. But first I'm addressing the actual bottlenecks.
 
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FastDriver

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Got the car back off the trailer, last night, refilled with 93, and stowed away in my garage. Tonight, I took a close look at the coolant leak, and I'm happy to report it was just a minor loose hose. No need for engine surgery. So, I adjusted it and tightened the hose clamp. That also probably means the head gasket is less likely, though I still have a weird dyno result to analyze... looks like a miss or something.

Anyways, I reloaded the 93 octane tune, tweaked a couple settings to account for the increase in Fuel Pressure to 50 psi from 43. Then, I took it for a drive. Everything is fine. It's driving nicely. I even got after it in 3rd til I got scared and let out. Saw 14psi... prolly 700 rwhp.

Now, just need to clean up again, load onto the trailer, and cover it up. It's ready for Foxtoberfest. I think I'll drive it to more events, this year.
 
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General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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You got 'concerned ' never scared
 

FastDriver

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Something occured to me today, and the math checks out. The fuel pump should have had a lot more left in it. I want to test the electrical connections back to the 2nd stage switch. While I turned the pump up to the max the weldon PWM controller would allow, that's only 80%. It may not have been switching to full pump speed.

You got 'concerned ' never scared
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@General karthief Let's just say, I didn't feel like going offroading in 3rd gear. The car was changing directions but not from the front tires.
 
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Get a T-shirt made with the dyno graph on it.

What the hell else are you going to do with 970 HP?
 
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FastDriver

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Run 8s.
 
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FastDriver said:
Run 8s.
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Get somebody to take video!
 

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I hope you guys with these insanely powerful cars live in an area where you can actually enjoy them enough without other people scowling at you. Heck, I roll through the neighborhood at 25mph with my Flowmaster 40’s and get evil looks. Meanwhile the yuppies in Teslas doing 40 in a 25 don’t get a second glance. I need some really quiet mufflers where I live.
 
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JD1964 said:
I hope you guys with these insanely powerful cars live in an area where you can actually enjoy them enough without other people scowling at you. Heck, I roll through the neighborhood at 25mph with my Flowmaster 40’s and get evil looks. Meanwhile the yuppies in Teslas doing 40 in a 25 don’t get a second glance. I need some really quiet mufflers where I live.
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You don't need quiet mufflers, you need to get thicker skin or move.away from your snobby neighbours.
 

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Haha a lot of my neighbors love my car! But I’m pushing 200hp
 
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JD1964 said:
I hope you guys with these insanely powerful cars live in an area where you can actually enjoy them enough without other people scowling at you. Heck, I roll through the neighborhood at 25mph with my Flowmaster 40’s and get evil looks. Meanwhile the yuppies in Teslas doing 40 in a 25 don’t get a second glance. I need some really quiet mufflers where I live.
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Just had a guy come screaming out into the road. I was probably doing like 32 mph, wasn't watching the speedo... They act like you just bounced 5 children off the front bumper. Roll eyes... don't have time for their drama... moving on...
 
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