For those that have deleted their EGR valve

[Mustang5L5]

Anyone here that can help me?

With?

 

[Jim925]

Newer 91 5.0 motor with 97 explorer intake and plenum. Overheating in less then a min, headers get red hot

 

[jrichker]

An extreme lean condition or retarded timing can cause the problem symptoms you are describing..
What is the timing set at?
Are there any codes?
Do you have any idle problems?
How much vacuum do you have at idle? You should see 16"-18 " at idle with a stock cam.
Have you checked for vacuum leaks?

Dump codes sticky

Look at the top of the 5.0 Tech forum where the sticky threads are posted. One of them is how to dump the computer codes. Codes may be present even if the CEL (Check Engine Light) isn’t on. You don’t need a code reader or scanner – all you need is a paper clip, or if your lady friend has a hair pin, that will do the job.
I highly suggest that you read it and follow the instructions to dump the codes. http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/how-to-pull-codes-from-eec4.889006/

 

[General karthief]

This is an old thread, they are trying to help you in the original thread you started, there is no magic bullet, one sentence explanation that will resolve your issue, you likely have a few things that need to be addressed, keep it in you thread and you will not get conflicting information.

 

[Jim925]

Trying to keep it in the thread but this website keeps re directing me to diff threads

 

[General karthief]

Not sure what you mean by 'redirecting'. When someone posts on your thread you get an alert, a number appears on the little bell in the upper right corner

 

[Mustang5L5]

If posting on a phone, I sometimes fat finger and click one of the suggested threads below and it takes me to the reply field of that thread. I usually catch it though.

 

[Jim925]

My fingers are way to fat, it didn't help I can't spell for carp and my phone corrects spelling but messes it up.

 

[General karthief]

Ya, 'smart' phones are a btch

 

[FastDriver]

@Mustang5L5

I'm in the process of deleting my EGR. Ports on heads were blocked and the EGR equip was already gone. I do care about mpg, but I'd like to clean up the engine bay and see just how much mpg my setup gets without it. My other car does 22mpg without it. If Black Jack can get 20+, I'll be thrilled.

Just installed blocker plate to TB spacer/ EGR port. Planning to connect EGR and zip tie it behind the heads, for now. I'll listen for detonation. It looks like Joel5.0 explained a resistor setup I need to build, as I doubt the eliminator plug is still available. I don't see the diagrams his post alluded to. Do you have them?

 

[AeroCoupe]

This?

 

[FastDriver]

Looks like it, thanks!

 

[Mustang5L5]

I made one of those. No lights and engine ran no differently.

Used to find the EGR empty plug sockers pretty easily. Can't find them right now. Wonder if that got pulled too.

 

[AeroCoupe]

LMR has the laoded ones and it would be pretty easy to use one and make the plug up.

https://lmr.com/item/LRS-9428APT/mustang-egr-valve-pigtail-86-93

 

[Mustang5L5]

You'd need the other side to make it a plug-and-play affair without modding the harness.

This is the one i used, but looks like no longer available

Amazon product ASIN B091Z453GT
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091Z453GT?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_8QECKB2607XSEBJ010K3

 

[AeroCoupe]

Doh! EGR side not harness side...

Found a site that claims to do the job:

FORD MUSTANG EGR DELETE - 1986-1995 / 86-95 5.0/2.3

1986-1995 Ford Mustang 5.0 / 2.3L EGR Simulator / Eliminator / Delete --- NEW VERSION 2.0 --- Disconnect your stock EGR valve and breathe life into your motor, while keeping your check engine light off, but active for future problems! This is an EGR valve…

innotronix.net

 

[FastDriver]

On order. I like pushing the easy button when it's available. Thanks again, @AeroCoupe

 

[limp]

I bet the black suburbans are already on there way to that shop.... They will report back to Greta after they shut down this HORRIBLE company... LOL

 

[AeroCoupe]

@FastDriver - Lets us know if that works as there may be others looking for a solution.

@limp - I am sure they already know about them. Biggest thing I saw on their site were all the disclaimers about racing use only. In the end its the user's responsibility so I get really fed up with all the going after a business for offering something that "could" be used to break the law. This goes for all things not just car parts.

 

[The needs of the many]

Two other EGR ideas

Idea 1. Get two new EGR valve gaskets. Sandwich a piece of sheet metal between and re install the valve.. It will keep the computer happy and keep the hot air out of the intake. This is similar to an accepted EGR valve test method. You would not need the resistors or plug thingy.

Idea 2. If you take emissions stuff off, please carefully put it all in a tote and do not hack up the wiring - just in case you sell the car or do not like what the missing stuff does to the computer.

Hi. I have an 88 Ford Thunderchicken (5.0) that runs without the EGR and runs/hesitates/rough idle/shift issues with it plugged into the new 3) EGR components: the valve, the EGR position sensor, and the solenoid, which was not working. To my dismay, the 200.00 repairs made zero difference. My only solution was to disconnect "the saucer" and put a screw in the hose. Car runs great with it, but the temps are a little hot, not to mention I live in So. Cal. When installing the new EGR I was careful to clean the throttle body ports out with long Qtips, carb cleaner, and a toothbrush. I was wondering if those nasty plastic vacuum lines that have at least three hose repairs in them are the culprit, as the attachment elbow at the throttle body is melted in place (D-ohhh!) But your sheet metal idea is just a simply great idea. Was entertaining a soda can, but it might melt. What kind of sheet metal, how thick, do you reccomend?