For those with FTI Camshafts.

Venom351R · Apr 23, 2008

I just got mine today from Ed . I'm just wondering what kind of power gains those of you with these camshafts saw? I know most of us that have gotten a custom grind cam do it for more power so what were you at before and after the FTI cam and also what other mods were done if any to go along with the cam that may have effected power. I have the cam specs I'm not going to post them here but I don't really know anything about what the numbers mean or for how mean of a cam this is Maybe someone else can help me out though PM.

final5-0 · Apr 23, 2008

I could not give you any info that I think would be helpful or even get close to answering your original Q

Before my current combo I was running a self ported E7 based combo with
shortys and other simple little stuff so the gain I got from the cam was
boosted by the heads, lt's and the like.

however ...

Here is a bit of info or stuff I experienced with my Ed Cam

I can say it would not idle at less than 1200 rpm and had all those terrible
drivability issues you always hear about

It was so fat it ran me and my other gear-head buds out of the garage.

I was running the OEM meter with 30# inj slopes & offsets loaded in the pcm
at the time of the initial fire up.

After a while of fooling around with the pcm values I got it to idle and behave
quite nicely IMHO

I did find a bit more power as well with the tune

Good Luck with the new combo

Grady

The O.G. · Apr 23, 2008

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i just dont see many benefitting from custom cams on typical hci

for the cost... ya know

your 351 should be interesting...get it in and dyno!

5spd GT · Apr 23, 2008

csgoody - The average camshaft cost $200. Some more and some less.

What is an extra $125 for more average power, better driveability, and a matched combination?

Venom351R · Apr 23, 2008

5spd GT said:
csgoody - The average camshaft cost $200. Some more and some less.

What is an extra $125 for more average power, better driveability, and a matched combination?

Thats the main reason I did it. My Crower cam idles like crap and has stalling issues until its warmed up and even then at times it still stalls on me when coming to a stop.

I will have it on the dyno as soon as the combo is put together. Looking at around the second week in May, I'll get it dynoed soon after then as well.

5spd GT · Apr 23, 2008

I am sure the average HP is going to go up.

What is the "powerband" on the camshaft?

By the way, the ICL (Intake centerline) is the degree that the crankshaft has turned (110 for example) when the valve reaches peak lift. A lower intake centerline typically results in more torque at a lower rpm.

Venom351R · Apr 23, 2008

5spd GT said:
I am sure the average HP is going to go up.

What is the "powerband" on the camshaft?

By the way, the ICL (Intake centerline) is the degree that the crankshaft has turned (110 for example) when the valve reaches peak lift. A lower intake centerline typically results in more torque at a lower rpm.

The powerbad specs are 2400-6200 for 327-355 CID engines
3000-6800 for 302-311 CID engines.

The O.G. · Apr 23, 2008

5spd GT said:
csgoody - The average camshaft cost $200. Some more and some less.

What is an extra $125 for more average power, better driveability, and a matched combination?

yea.. i look at gradys graph and see really good gains early,but he stated terrible
driving issues

then in most cases u need valve springs matched etc adding to the cost
in redlines case it seems more worth it with that type motor

this is not a bash by any means

Redline_351R said:
Thats the main reason I did it. My Crower cam idles like crap and has stalling issues until its warmed up and even then at times it still stalls on me when coming to a stop.

I will have it on the dyno as soon as the combo is put together. Looking at around the second week in May, I'll get it dynoed soon after then as well.

Venom351R · Apr 23, 2008

csgoody said:
yea.. i look at brady's graph and see really good gains early,but he stated terrible
driving issues

then in most cases u need valve springs matched etc adding to the cost
in redlines case it seems more worth it with that type motor

this is not a bash by any means

Not taken that way at all. I could have left the cam as is and saved a ton of money but I have goals with the car N/A and I don't think Id be able to get them with an over the shelf cam. I'm not sure how well my current cam worked with the AFR heads or how well it would work with the Trick Flow R that will soon be going on so I figured Id just get a cam but was built for that combo. Between the heads, cam and intake Id hate to have the cam be the weak point as far as more power potential when the heads and the intake are all set.

The O.G. · Apr 23, 2008

your case it makes a bit more sense ya know,i would do the same

doesnt comp make custom cams as well? price? do they have ed c,jay allen
build them

5spd GT · Apr 23, 2008

Comp custom cams are completely different.

Venom351R · Apr 23, 2008

5spd GT said:
Comp custom cams are completely different.

My cam came in a Comp Cams box and a Com cam instruction book but my cam spec sheet is from FTI

The O.G. · Apr 23, 2008

Redline_351R said:
My cam came in a Comp Cams box and a Com cam instruction book but my cam spec sheet is from FTI

empty boxes r good for shipping

5spd GT · Apr 23, 2008

Ed may use some special cores from them. That, I am not sure about.

He does not have Comp do any of the "customizing."

You will not find a camshaft like his, identical to an OTS camshaft.

final5-0 · Apr 23, 2008

I had M A N Y reasons for going custom

Playing nice with the pcm
OR
Drivability issues

I gave no considerations to those two items when I did my research

Its late and I'm gonna just bottom line it ... as I see it

You pick a cam to make power
and
You manipulate pcm values to deal with drivability issues :Word:

Grady

Black95GTS · Apr 24, 2008

Redline_351R said:
My cam came in a Comp Cams box and a Com cam instruction book but my cam spec sheet is from FTI

I believe Comp Cams does the actual grinding, but they grind it to Ed's specs. I'm not 100 percent sure on this.

The biggest misunderstanding about custom camshafts is the peak horsepower number. An E-cam and an FTI cam can both make 300 rwhp on a 302. Which one of those cars is faster?

The FTI cammed car will blow the doors off the e-camed car. Peak horsepower doesn't mean squat. So when you get the dyno, watch for the mentality of "I payed 350 for this cam but only picked up 10 HP!!!" You may have only picked up 10 peak HP, but you may have picked up 40 average HP. That's what moves a car, and why custom camshafts are the way to go!

Adam

Venom351R · Apr 24, 2008

Black95GTS said:
I believe Comp Cams does the actual grinding, but they grind it to Ed's specs. I'm not 100 percent sure on this.

The biggest misunderstanding about custom camshafts is the peak horsepower number. An E-cam and an FTI cam can both make 300 rwhp on a 302. Which one of those cars is faster?

The FTI cammed car will blow the doors off the e-camed car. Peak horsepower doesn't mean squat. So when you get the dyno, watch for the mentality of "I payed 350 for this cam but only picked up 10 HP!!!" You may have only picked up 10 peak HP, but you may have picked up 40 average HP. That's what moves a car, and why custom camshafts are the way to go!

Adam

Agreed, I do expect some top end HP # gains but over all I want a cam that will work in the RPM range with this combo I have or will soon have on.

The O.G. · Apr 24, 2008

final5-0 said:
I had M A N Y reasons for going custom

Playing nice with the pcm
OR
Drivability issues

I gave no considerations to those two items when I did my research

does any one have a basic hci with just a cam swap from ots to custom?

For those with FTI Camshafts.

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