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daviszx3

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a friend of mine has a 86 GT that he wants to convert the front end to the 87-93 body style and i would be helping him with this conversion, just wondering what all is needed to do this? do you have to replace just the front nose or what??
thanks in advance
 

riceslayer302

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tell him to sit in a chair next to it and look at it for awhile... if he doesnt change his mind tell him to just sell it and buy an aero nose. why waste a good 4 eye? they are rare enough as it is. theres bajillions of 87-93 cars out there.



4 eyes ftmfw
 

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stykthyn

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if that is what he really wants to do then he will need the front clip, body moldings, new headlight harnesses, headlights, and I am not sure if he will need a new rear bumper to match the moldings or not.
 

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I thought you could just leave the moldings and rear bumper? oh well. I agree though. Leave it a four eye. WHen I get my four eye I am just going to upgrade the powertrain to efi and maf.
 

riceslayer302

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^exactly^

i like the four eyes alot just b/c they are different. the reason i dont have one, is b/c i didnt like them when i first got into foxes. i guarantee you he'll he'd up loving them. most 4 eye guys i know wouldn't trade for anything
 

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ok cool thanks i will pass that on, but he is dead set on buying a 4cyl junker and converting everything over even interior so idk we will c wht happens
 

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tell him to buy a 4 eye ..get an original
 

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Ugh. What's with all these butchering threads lately?
 

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Ugh. What's with all these butchering threads lately?
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There everywhere
 

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screw that, i dont get why everything has to be so controlled, have a feeling this is the us government with all this thread moved thread locked bs lately.
 

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screw that, i dont get why everything has to be so controlled, have a feeling this is the us government with all this thread moved thread locked bs lately.
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We don't need ten thousand conversion threads.
 

riceslayer302

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we dont need 10 thousand "cleaned and detailed my engine bay" or "check out my sick cold air intake" or "wtf is this?" threads but there are anyways? if you guys are bored go play scrabble or something lol. its an online message board not the library of congress come on. i just had this discussion with gearbanger. threads that suck will be ignored. imo they dont need to be moved or merged or closed unless they are getting really out of hand like the stupid little boys wear bowties dealthat i admit i had a big part in.... but whatever i digress...
 

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There everywhere
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It's "they're" everywhere Mr. sunshine. And are you now Stangnet's conversion police? Those "cobra R's" came stock on your GT right?
 

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a friend of mine has a 86 GT that he wants to convert the front end to the 87-93 body style and i would be helping him with this conversion, just wondering what all is needed to do this? do you have to replace just the front nose or what??
thanks in advance
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I actually started the "Aero nose to four-eyed" thread. Feel free to tell your friend that I'm actaully looking to do the opposite, change my 93 front end into an 85-86 GT front end. PM me if he's interested in swapping. Here's some pics of my front end, it's in great shape except for the faded paint. I can take some better ones tomorrow when it's light out.

 

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QUICK91LX

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Save the time and ridiculous amount of work by simply selling the 4-eye to someone who appreciates it and get an aero nose. There is no shortage of them out there. There IS, however, a shortage of decent 4-eye cars.

The swap is not as quick and easy as everyone thinks, unless you want to be a hack. Doing it right involves swapping a lot of parts besides just the nose. Otherwise you have an 86 car that got a bad nose job.
 

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riceslayer302 said:
we dont need 10 thousand "cleaned and detailed my engine bay" or "check out my sick cold air intake" or "wtf is this?" threads but there are anyways? if you guys are bored go play scrabble or something lol. its an online message board not the library of congress come on. i just had this discussion with gearbanger. threads that suck will be ignored. imo they dont need to be moved or merged or closed unless they are getting really out of hand like the stupid little boys wear bowties dealthat i admit i had a big part in.... but whatever i digress...
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I don't think it's your place to tell the mods how to do their jobs. We answer to the Admins and Owner, not you.

These "conversion" threads usually turn into arguments. That's why they get locked/merged/deleted.
 

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It's "they're" everywhere Mr. sunshine. And are you now Stangnet's conversion police? Those "cobra R's" came stock on your GT right?
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I'm sorry but, wheels are easily changed. Can't compare wheels to changing the whole look of a car. Even with Cobra R rims, an '89 5.0 LX STILL looks like an '89 LX.
 
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now now, no fighting or i will close this thread, hahahaha
 

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To do the swap he will need,,,

Hood,
bumper cover with header panel,
87 -93 fenders --or---if he gets fender extensions from a 87-90 car it is a direct bolt on to the 85-86 fenders. The 91-93 fender extensions wont work because of different size fender openings..
If he does the fender extension route will atleast need the moulding that goes between the front bumper cover and the wheel well opening.
Also need plugs for the lights to splice onto the headlight harness.

As for the bumper itself I have always swapped them when doign a swap, but may 85-86 bumper might fot under the 87-93 nose....
 

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To do the swap he will need,,,

Hood,
bumper cover with header panel,
87 -93 fenders --or---if he gets fender extensions from a 87-90 car it is a direct bolt on to the 85-86 fenders. The 91-93 fender extensions wont work because of different size fender openings..
If he does the fender extension route will atleast need the moulding that goes between the front bumper cover and the wheel well opening.
Also need plugs for the lights to splice onto the headlight harness.

As for the bumper itself I have always swapped them when doign a swap, but may 85-86 bumper might fot under the 87-93 nose....
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He will also need to:
-change all the rest of the moldings
-swap rear bumper cover
-change taillights
-replace the sail panels with 1/4 windows
-change drip rail moldings
-swap mirrors
-swap belt moldings
-change interior 1/4 panels to match 1/4 windows
-replace hatch area carpet to fit contours of interior 1/4 panels

That is the way you do it right. Who wants to have the newer nose when the rest of the car still has the older look? When not done complete, correct and WELL, it just looks stupid. After all that work, you STILL have the old style interior. Not to mention the fact that the ever-stregnthening value of the early fox Mustang will no longer to apply to that car. Nor will the value be as strong as an original aero nose car. Check on the price difference between an original Yenko Chevelle and a Yenko Chevelle CLONE...yeah, it's that big of a difference. Same principle applies here.

To me its not worth the time, effort or money to do all that nonsense. Just sell it and use the cash to get your hands on a decent aero nose car. It just makes more sense in more ways than one.
 
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