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Going Cams..Valve Springs?

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SCalla1384

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Hey guys, so Im getting ready to order my HiTech Stage 2 Cams. Probally by the end of this month or I may just wait til the end of october.

With the HiTech stage 2's it says I do not need Valve Springs unless I operate above 6,400rpm. Which i dont plan on doing.

I have about 72k miles on my 03 GT. Should I get valve springs? I really hope I dont. Because Im bringing it to the shop to have it done. Itll get done quicker and its my DD. And valve springs would be $200, plus another $600 for labor. That would suckkkkkkk...Will I need them or will I be fine? Thanks for the help guys.
 
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tonytaylor85

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because they only "suggest" and do not "require" springs above 6400 rpms makes me think you will be fine on the stock springs.

Or you can call them and ask...
 

scupking

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You will have no issues with the Hitech Stage IIs and stock valve springs.
 

ChillPhatCat

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$600 for labor for valve springs? That seems a bit high... Especially being in there already for cams.

Edit: I see lots of red Mustangs in here
 
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Seraphim38

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ChillPhatCat said:
$600 for labor for valve springs? That seems a bit high... Especially being in there already for cams.

Edit: I see lots of red Mustangs in here
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speaking as a red mustang owner

labor for head rebuilds is high because they are complicated heads, with 32 valves and springs. Not to justify it, since I just got taken for $2k to rebuild a set of heads with a stage 1 port. If I had gotten out the door with only 600 in labor I would have been happy...
 

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Seraphim38 said:
speaking as a red mustang owner

labor for head rebuilds is high because they are complicated heads, with 32 valves and springs. Not to justify it, since I just got taken for $2k to rebuild a set of heads with a stage 1 port. If I had gotten out the door with only 600 in labor I would have been happy...
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True I didn't think of that, my experience is mostly with OHV engines... where heads only get as complicated as 16 valves, springs and rockers.
 

trinity_gt

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ChillPhatCat said:
True I didn't think of that, my experience is mostly with OHV engines... where heads only get as complicated as 16 valves, springs and rockers.
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The 2V GT only has 16 valves.

The only real complication/difference between the modular 2V head and a standard OHV head is the camshaft being right there. After it's removed, access to the valves and springs isn't much different than an OHV design.
 

Winters98GT

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I would suggest going with new valve springs on any aftermarket cam. It is money well spent. You might pay a little more up front, but it can save you in the long run. I have been on the other side of spring failure after a set of 2v cams, and it trashed my motor. Good luck.
 

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scupking said:
You will have no issues with the Hitech Stage IIs and stock valve springs.
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^ what he said (I was waiting to see his post in here)
 

trinity_gt

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FWIW, I've been running stock springs with Comp 262AHs (226I/230E duration @ 0.050 and 0.545 lift) for a couple of years now with no issues. 'Course, I also make a point of not revving the piss out of the engine too...
 
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Winters98GT said:
I would suggest going with new valve springs on any aftermarket cam. It is money well spent. You might pay a little more up front, but it can save you in the long run. I have been on the other side of spring failure after a set of 2v cams, and it trashed my motor. Good luck.
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+1, I'd do it just to be on the safe side especially on a set of aftermarket cams.
 
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Ryan441

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you can buy stage 2 partriot heads for 1500. installing cams takes all of a couple hours shouldnt be very much unless they just workin you over
 
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