Got a Question about Stock HP #'s on 5.0's

MorbidGTVert said:

GD no-one has gotten WTF i was asking on the second ? about comparing 5.0's to SS Camaro's


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i get what your saying but I really dont know im wonder that sometimes too....maybe because you see more successful stangs than maros? heh

okay okay truth be told RWHP is more like 185-195 for most mustangs. that being said, a lot of the stangs came out tweaked because the engineers building them did extra sh@# to them....so i've seen with advanced timing, like the guy above said, 220RWHP off a dozen or so mustangs.....kinda of amazing?

also, don't forget we are talking 10-15 years old engines...again these engines aren't that bad if you consider this....i can still put the SMACK down on my friends NEW V-6 Hyundai Tiburon GT (most engines are tweaked past or near 5.0 power, like the VTec) with just bolt ons.... i pull on him top end...

Oh yeah, one more thing, thats the one thing i loved about 5.0 mustangs. two words for you.........
CHEAP PERFORMANCE
Buy a healthy 5.0 for 5K$, maybe even rebuild the engine for blower (should come with it for that price)?!?! Strap on a supercharger for 3k$ more and turn up the boost. Now tell me that 10K$ to go as fast as a Vette? is worth the Vette's 40K$ + price tag? i don't think so...you want handling...you can get there with another 10K$ at least... thats 20K$ total for a car that performs better (handling wise) and goes faster than a vette...making my point yet?

I think ricers use the 5.0 mustangs as a baseline because they are widely popular and the ricers know that they can be made fast as hell for cheap.

MorbidGTVert said:

Is that 225 hp and 300 ftlbs at the wheels or is that at the fly? i'm just curious because if its at the fly that means only about 170 to 180 get to the wheels. thats pittyful. now these SS Camaro are putting 302 hp to the wheels stock. How come so much difference and 5.0's are the best to play with? ricers respect the 5.0 or mustang more than the Camaro. When the Cam puts more to the ground. Cause you never hear them say they raced camaro's it's like they use our cars as their baseline on how badly they get beat. Just Curious

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I think the answer lies in the fact that the Camaro was so anemic for so long. Face it, from 1986-1993 the 5.0 OWNED the Camaro, and they could be had with 50 more cubic inches. The only Z28 that I knew of that could give a 5.0 a run for it's money back in the day was a low option, no AC, no Radio 1LE option, and then, it did not beat it by much. In 1993, with the 275HP LT1, things got better, but the SVT Cobra simply walked all over them, and again, stole the spotlight from the bowtie boys.

If you look at the aftermarket for Fox Bodied stangs...it's HUGE. Think about it, if you want to do a HCI swap on a 5.0, your choice of heads, cams, intakes, exhaust, etc. is HUGE. If you want to do a HCI swap on an F body, where do you turn and what options do you have? The liklihood of that mild mannered Fox body being an 11 second street warrior is a lot higher than that LS1 powered F body...granted, that F body will be a solid low 13 second/high 12 second car, but taking it to the next level is TOUGH.

I don't mean that as a slam on LS1's or F bodies at ALL...in fact, I would love to have a 2002 Camaro SS to park next to my 1993 notch. A good friend of mine has a 1998 LS1 wtih a 6 speed and 3.73:1 gears..he drove the thing to the drag strip, ran a bunch of 12.90's, and drove home, and still managed 25 mpg the entire time while running the AC...what the heck is not to love?

Hax

Maybe because most f-bodies are fugly and they do have some weak points like the rear end, weight, price of mods, price of car, 4l60E trannies suck...my friend runs 12.4's all motor but he's on his 3rd trans.

ricers try to compare there cars with our's because the 5.0 is the BOMB

true

Click on my link 87 5.0 GT and see what I have for mods and compare to the dyno sheet on there. I was pleased with the dyno numbers.

Pretty much GTO's started the first muscle car era,,and arguably 5.0's were the start of the 2nd one.Yeah in 82 Firebirds and camaro's tried,but those 305's were a very lame atempt When the Mustang came out with the roller cam in 85,they were pretty much the car to beat in the 80's After that cars just got faster and faster.