Help Buying 69 Notchback

Matttt · May 17, 2007

Floor is soft
interior in bad condition
engine runs (302) but not sure how well
body is in... fair condition i guess

owner asking $3000 CDN
Im wondering about the actual value of the car.

any suggestions?
or would you need more info?

fvike · May 17, 2007

Hard to tell without any pictures, but the major thing is, it's running and all the parts are there? I guess 3000 isn't to bad for a running '69 Mustang.
BTW, it's "Fastback" or in the '69-'73 cars, it's actually "SportsRoof" (with capital R), but everyone just say Fastback.

Iamdiffrnt · May 17, 2007

He might be talking about a coupe.

fvike · May 17, 2007

Better start using Mustang terms then...

NasaGT · May 17, 2007

Using Notch to describe a Mustang coupe is very common.

68RCodeConv · May 17, 2007

Keep looking. That's a parts car. 69 coupes are not very desirable and there's no point restoring one in that bad of condition. For a couple of grand more you should be able to get one that is drivable with no major rust problems and a decent interior.

By spending twice as much up front you will be saving money (and a LOT of time)in the long run.

Sicarius428 · May 17, 2007

I would suggest against buying a 69/70 with those symptoms. Along with all mustangs the body may look fair but there are many hidden issues like the trunk and cowl area which if the floorboards are any tell tail sign the rest is pretty much rotted. Another issue with the 69/70 is that they are a bit more expensive to repair because the parts are just not as common as the 67/68... You can practically build one of those from the ground up from an NPD catalog...interior included. A repo dash for a 69/70 will cost you your left arm for example.
It is generally better to get a good shell of a car rather a better running car with a banged up body. Typically bodywork/interior will cost you close to twice as much as any drivetrain component. A 302 with transmission will run you 700-1000 dollars and there are replacement parts everywhere. I am not trying to shy you away from the 69/70 but if you have your heart set on one, I would wait for another to come up. I am not sure of the availability of these things up there in Canada but I am sure you can do better with 3000 CDN.

fvike, I love the pic in your sig.
Kevin

fvike · May 17, 2007

NasaGT said:
Using Notch to describe a Mustang coupe is very common.

I didn't know that... note my location

Sicarius428: It's the only way to drive, lol!

krallman · May 17, 2007

If you restore it to mint condition you might be able to get 10-12 grand out of it. Alot of people arent very interested in 67-73 coupes. You would be better off getting a 65-66 coupe. Parts are cheaper too.
Second Notch is used for describing foxbody's i cant stand it when people call a classic coupe a notch.

bnickel · May 17, 2007

krallman said:
If you restore it to mint condition you might be able to get 10-12 grand out of it. Alot of people arent very interested in 67-73 coupes. You would be better off getting a 65-66 coupe. Parts are cheaper too.
Second Notch is used for describing foxbody's i cant stand it when people call a classic coupe a notch.

people have been calling coupes notchbacks for years, probably since before the fox mustang bodystyle even came out. one example is the older boxy VW cars (pre-rabbit, sirocco, etc.) they had notch backs, squarebacks, and cammbacks (or fastbacks)

Matttt · May 17, 2007

Ok, found this link

Only differences is,
im fairly certain its not a boss302, just a 302.
and the mustang symbol on the front grill is not there
rear window has slightly steeper angle (i think) kinda levels off.

Other than that, car is exact,

http://www.1969stang.com/gallery/69mustangz/BlueBoss302_1

wouldnt a coupe be smaller?

NasaGT · May 18, 2007

fvike said:
I didn't know that... note my location

RogerC62 · May 18, 2007

That's a parts car. 69 coupes are not very desirable and there's no point restoring one in that bad of condition.

Great for building a modified car or restomod. Not knowing what the car has or what it looks like, the price seems high to me.

my current one when I bought it

Sicarius428 · May 18, 2007

I think the tiebreaker is if it is a coupe or a fastback. A coupe will not be worth the effort or the money. If it is a fastback/Mach1/Boss chances are it might be worth the trouble. A typical Fastback in my area is worth at least 7-8 thousand more than a coupe. A mach 1 easily 10-12k more... all in running so-so condition.
Kevin

bnickel · May 18, 2007

well it depends on if it's a base coupe or a grande or even a GT, those are worth a good bit more than a standard coupe, also it is a big clock car it's worth more as well. an M code 4spd coupe is worth a little bit as well.

the 69 coupe may not be worth a ton of money but they are by far the nicest coupes of the 65-69 years and the 71-73 coupes are really odd looking. the 69/70 coupes are much nicer than an any of the other year coupes especially on the interior. a 69/70 coupe with deluxe interior or a 69/70 grande is really a very nice comfortable car that has a lot of style.

and yes, i am partial to the 69 coupes but there is a reason for that. they had ton's more available options than any of the previous years and the available engines choices were much greater as well.

bottom line is if you are looking for a car as an investment, the a 69 coupe is not the best choice but neither is any other year coupe for that matter. if you are looking for a nice cruiser car to enjoy then a 69 coupe is hard to beat.

bnickel · May 18, 2007

oh yeah, another thing about the 69/70 coupes is that they are not nearly as prone to cowl rust as the earlier models. the floors do rust and the corners of the doors and around the rear wheelwells and if the car had a vinyl top they are prone to rust around the windows and under the top, but not any more than any of the previous years with vinly tops.

really the floors and rear wheelwells are the worst spots.

Jester67 · May 18, 2007

krallman said:
If you restore it to mint condition you might be able to get 10-12 grand out of it. Alot of people arent very interested in 67-73 coupes. You would be better off getting a 65-66 coupe. Parts are cheaper too.
Second Notch is used for describing foxbody's i cant stand it when people call a classic coupe a notch.

Yah might want to check your facts the 67-68 coupe is very desirable just look at the number of posters here that have them. Now as you get into the 69/ 70 it drops off and then 71/73 are much less but hay there are still mustangs so what’s not to love. As for notch back that is some thing I have heard most of my life to describe the classics “they where just not classics at the time” so this predates the fox by a decade.

krallman · May 18, 2007

All im saying is that i hardly hear anyone call a 65-73 coupe a notchback, unless it is some goober in a 5.0. And i wasn't saying notchback was only used for foxbody mustangs. And 67-68 coupe aren't near as desired as 65-66 coupes or 65-70 fastbacks. I saw no more than 7 67-70 coupes when i went out to hot august nights in reno. Thats out of 10,000 cars. Dont get me wrong i like them and not saying they suck or that their is anything wrong with there just not as desirable.
But they rate in my book way above 74-78

Matttt · May 21, 2007

so im wondering, even though hes asking 3000, what do you think i should offer him? i dont plan on paying anywhere near 3000 for the car.

Sicarius428 · May 21, 2007

I personally would pass on a car in that condition and save my money for another one to turn up. If you have your heart set on this car, if possible get some pictures and we can give you a better idea. Without seeing this thing and going off soft floorboards, I would say offer him very very little. It will cost you a lot more to get it back into decent shape in the long run.
Kevin

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