Help Buying 69 Notchback
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ok, i got some pics, my camera freaked out and didnt save a cpl of them, i had some shots of the floor, which actually isnt as bad as i previously thought, its actually pretty solid with maybe one or 2 exceptions.
Engine runs, no blue smoke, transmission is good,
it spent last 9 years in a barn
original color was green (not sure if that matters)
rails are good (whatever they are)
Under the hood (close up pic dissapeared)
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=im001747zg4.jpg
Side View
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8855/im001748jw4.jpg
Hole in trunk (1)
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3541/im001749of0.jpg
Hole in trunk (2)
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7794/im001750ho5.jpg
Whole Trunk
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4958/im001751ml0.jpg
Drivers Side (photoshoped for visability.)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3710/im001752js0.jpg
Seats (drivers side in about the same condition)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9576/im001753ev8.jpg
Rear Window (from inside)
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5047/im001754bu6.jpg
Trunk from outside
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4936/im001755rk1.jpg
Rails? (the rust color stuff is actually old paint falling off, solid green underneath)
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3761/im001757tn5.jpg
Front view, Hood down
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8354/im001758st8.jpg
Damaged Rusty body behind both rear weels,
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5135/im001759sq3.jpg
The car was parked in a much better spot this time, so i was able to look under it, i just wish the pictures didnt just dissapear on me, but again, underneath looks alot more solid than originally thought, i think i was feeling the old paint that was falling off (th first time), and there is a bit of rust under the carpet, but its not soft metal.
many thanx for helpin me out guys, hopefully with the new info, u could better advise me. its almost like lookin at it as a different car tho, because my inspections differed so much.
Engine runs, no blue smoke, transmission is good,
it spent last 9 years in a barn
original color was green (not sure if that matters)
rails are good (whatever they are)
Under the hood (close up pic dissapeared)
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=im001747zg4.jpg
Side View
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8855/im001748jw4.jpg
Hole in trunk (1)
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3541/im001749of0.jpg
Hole in trunk (2)
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7794/im001750ho5.jpg
Whole Trunk
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4958/im001751ml0.jpg
Drivers Side (photoshoped for visability.)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3710/im001752js0.jpg
Seats (drivers side in about the same condition)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9576/im001753ev8.jpg
Rear Window (from inside)
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5047/im001754bu6.jpg
Trunk from outside
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4936/im001755rk1.jpg
Rails? (the rust color stuff is actually old paint falling off, solid green underneath)
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3761/im001757tn5.jpg
Front view, Hood down
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8354/im001758st8.jpg
Damaged Rusty body behind both rear weels,
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5135/im001759sq3.jpg
The car was parked in a much better spot this time, so i was able to look under it, i just wish the pictures didnt just dissapear on me, but again, underneath looks alot more solid than originally thought, i think i was feeling the old paint that was falling off (th first time), and there is a bit of rust under the carpet, but its not soft metal.
many thanx for helpin me out guys, hopefully with the new info, u could better advise me. its almost like lookin at it as a different car tho, because my inspections differed so much.
xoxbxfx
Founding Member
A lot of people on here seem to be haters but Im going to say its going to depend on your budget to fix the car and your mechanical abilities. I personally would tackle that in a heart beat. While people are right, coupes are not worth as much as a fastback, who cares what they think. A car is worth what you think it is until you go to sell it. If you like coupes, I think its a good project. All the stuff you need to fix the holes in the trunk and the 1/4 are available and are not expensive to buy. The question is, are you going to fix it or pay someone to. If you have tools (welder, grinder, sanders, some type of cutoff wheel, etc) you can easily tackle this car. Dont let people scare you off from the car because they do not want to fix it. I have seen people replace just about a whole car other than the roof but they were proud of themselves and wanted to tackle that hard of a project.
All the body gaps from what I can see look pretty good. Having a straight car really helps. Aftermarket repop panels suck and dont usually fit well.
I think the car is a very solid builder but it will take a lot of time and effort. It can be beautiful with some TLC
All the body gaps from what I can see look pretty good. Having a straight car really helps. Aftermarket repop panels suck and dont usually fit well.
I think the car is a very solid builder but it will take a lot of time and effort. It can be beautiful with some TLC
jester, the prob i have with that is that i live on the east coast of canada, alot of salt in the air here, and alot used in the winters over the years.
this very well may be the last (not totaled) mustang that i may run across for the next 5 years or more, and by then there will be less available and prolly more expensive for one is worse condition...
ahh, hard decision for me, only got 2 days to make up my mind.
major prob for me is, i really like it, but at the moment, im moving and cash is a lil thin, but whats the point of having a nice garage with no car to work on...
this very well may be the last (not totaled) mustang that i may run across for the next 5 years or more, and by then there will be less available and prolly more expensive for one is worse condition...
ahh, hard decision for me, only got 2 days to make up my mind.
major prob for me is, i really like it, but at the moment, im moving and cash is a lil thin, but whats the point of having a nice garage with no car to work on...
honestly, i think i would have to pass on this car.
the floors are toast, floor supports are toast, trunk floors and rear crossmember are totast, there is rust all around the rear window, the 1/4 panels are toast, i can guarantee you there is more than an inch of bondo in the 1/4 panels where the side scoop pieces would normally go because they are missing and there is a realy large indentation in the 1/4 for those pieces that has been filled in with bondo, there is some kind of funky metal pieces covering the tops of the inner fenders and shock towers and judging by the condition of the rust on the rest of the car i'd be willing to bet the frame rails are rusted beyond repair as well. you're looking at about $15,000 worth of sheetmetal repair just from what i can see and probably much more than that. if you can do ALL of the work yourself you're still looking at several thousand dollars just for the sheetmetal work, that doesn't include paint, interior work, engine, suspension, brakes or anything else.
even if you could do all the work yourself it would take a decade to get the car mobile again. do yourself a favor and shop around on ebay. just because you can afford the asking price for this car doesn't mean you can afford the car.
for instance, my car had very minimal rust and still has solid original floors and i still had almost $2000 worth of rust repair done before the car could be painted. if you really want a car that has to stripped to nothing more than a roof and a firewall and have everything else replaced then this is your car, but it's not something you'll be able to drive on weekends for a very, very long time.
i could find you a better car here for about $2000 and even that will be a project but it will be a fairly solid car too.
my advice is to shop around on ebay for a better car to start with. it may cost more initially but it will cost you much less in the long run.
the floors are toast, floor supports are toast, trunk floors and rear crossmember are totast, there is rust all around the rear window, the 1/4 panels are toast, i can guarantee you there is more than an inch of bondo in the 1/4 panels where the side scoop pieces would normally go because they are missing and there is a realy large indentation in the 1/4 for those pieces that has been filled in with bondo, there is some kind of funky metal pieces covering the tops of the inner fenders and shock towers and judging by the condition of the rust on the rest of the car i'd be willing to bet the frame rails are rusted beyond repair as well. you're looking at about $15,000 worth of sheetmetal repair just from what i can see and probably much more than that. if you can do ALL of the work yourself you're still looking at several thousand dollars just for the sheetmetal work, that doesn't include paint, interior work, engine, suspension, brakes or anything else.
even if you could do all the work yourself it would take a decade to get the car mobile again. do yourself a favor and shop around on ebay. just because you can afford the asking price for this car doesn't mean you can afford the car.
for instance, my car had very minimal rust and still has solid original floors and i still had almost $2000 worth of rust repair done before the car could be painted. if you really want a car that has to stripped to nothing more than a roof and a firewall and have everything else replaced then this is your car, but it's not something you'll be able to drive on weekends for a very, very long time.
i could find you a better car here for about $2000 and even that will be a project but it will be a fairly solid car too.
my advice is to shop around on ebay for a better car to start with. it may cost more initially but it will cost you much less in the long run.
I’m no hater I’m a realist. I hate to see good people get in over there head and end up losing money and there love of the classics. Can this car be fixed yes is now the time to fix it probably not, should it be crushed NO. I do not like the idea of parts car as I have seen cars that where once parts cars brought back to life. But the reality is that the 69-70 cars are not as supported as the earlier cars making the project more expensive and time consuming. Will this change in the future I sure hope so and believe it will as I have seen the support for the 67-68 increase by leaps since I started. This is just my .02 cents YMMV and as always it is your money and time do with it as you may.
xoxbxfx
Founding Member
I have yet to see but a few people make money on a classic car... You cant look at a classic car as a profit/loss project..its a toy and you will spend far more than you will probably get back out of it. Costly changes into what you wanted to do with the car and what not just changes it all. I have well over $10k into my old coupe I bought when I was 16 and have really nothing to show for it... I lost a bunch of money but I dont care because I still have my car and its worth what I want it to be
aftermarket support for the 69/70 cars has improved drastically over the last couple years with all kinds of new products available now, like original style consoles and new dash bezels with perfect chrome, even sheetmetal has gotten better but we still don't have the support the early cars do, it is getting much better than it has been for a long, long time.
ya missed my point it is one thing to spend a lot of money on a car that you can drive and have fun with it is another to spen a lot of money on a car that you will never get to drive before you give up on a sale.
krash kendall
Active Member
What part of eastern Canada are you from? Ontario or the maritimes? Cars get old really fast out there (I'm originally from New Brunswick). I would be leery of any car that has had ANY patchwork or cosmetic bodywork out there. Anything short of a complete restoration will be hiding something. In areas where an annual inspection is required, cars get a patch here and a patch there over the years and are still a good twenty footer untill there is more patch than car and are too structurally unsound to pass. Imagine how bad those fenders must have been to garner replacement.
If you are serious, wait till you can take a trip out west and find something good for less money and have it shipped home by train or truck.
If you are serious, wait till you can take a trip out west and find something good for less money and have it shipped home by train or truck.
I am not a hater either. I am not judging somebody's love of affection for a car. With enough time and money it can be brought back. His original post asked what the car is worth and what we though of it in its condition with pictures which was very useful. I think as a get your feet wet project, this is a bit much and this is our honest opinion of the car. It has seen better days and yes it can be restored but it might be over your head and wallet. Nothing is worse than pouring money and time into a project and not feeling that it is going anywhere. With that car I would suggest pulling everything out and off and media blast it. I bought my Mach 1 Q code when I was 18 and having to buy/find/replace many parts(and its still not done 9 years later). I still have probably 10k more to finish it. I have no consern of what its dollar worth other than whats its worth to me, as most people here. The aftermart is becoming more accomodating to the 69/70 but at a huge price tag. They know its a nitch car and you will pay to own one. As a first project car, I suggest passing on this one and bank your money for a better one. That might be the best in the area but I highly suggest taking a road trip out of the area to find one. You can probably find that prices are cheaper where mustangs are more common elseware.
Kevin
Kevin
could you offer up any advice as to how to look for one?
around here, you have to go out back country roads and see cars in peeps back yards, cars that have been sitting all seasons outside with a forest growing around em,
if i was to travel to find one, chances are im not going to see any on the side of the road with a for sale sign on it like i did here.
is there an underground club i need to join?
any and all advice appreciated.
also, thanx for all the adice on the current car,
i would still love to get my hands on a 69 coupe.
around here, you have to go out back country roads and see cars in peeps back yards, cars that have been sitting all seasons outside with a forest growing around em,
if i was to travel to find one, chances are im not going to see any on the side of the road with a for sale sign on it like i did here.
is there an underground club i need to join?
any and all advice appreciated.
also, thanx for all the adice on the current car,
i would still love to get my hands on a 69 coupe.
You are already a member of the not secret society of Stangnet. Tell us what you car looking for how much you are willing to pay and if you are willing to travel. If you would like I would be willing to keep an eye out here send pictures of what I find I would give it a good looking over and contact information just let me know as I do this for other people and it gives me an excuse to drive the local back roads.
i always liked the 69 coupe, its shape is just so much more appealing to me, i just wish that the parts were more available.
current time, im willing to spend maybe 2-3K, maybe a lil more in a couple months,
im somewhat willing to travel, depends on where to,
what kind of condition should one in the 2500 - 3000 range be in?
current time, im willing to spend maybe 2-3K, maybe a lil more in a couple months,
im somewhat willing to travel, depends on where to,
what kind of condition should one in the 2500 - 3000 range be in?
Do not set a time limit on acquiring a car, and do not be afraid to travel out of the rust belt to buy it. You will be glad you followed this advice for years to come.
Don't be in a hurry, it will cost you thousands down the road.
We aren't haters here, we are just trying to help you get the best deal on a style car you love. I am not sure how any rational mind could construe that as hate. Sounds more like love to me.....
