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General karthief

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Next set of plugs smear a little anti-sieze on the threads.
 
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General karthief said:
Next set of plugs smear a little anti-sieze on the threads.
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This wasn't done by me, these plugs have been in since I bought the car a few years ago, but noted.
 

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I expected the plug threads to look worse. How are the threads in the head?
 

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7991LXnSHO said:
I expected the plug threads to look worse. How are the threads in the head?
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honestly, as far as I can tell no damaged threads so far! Nothing that looks like it needs a threaded insert/helicoil.
Just insanely seized but I'm very careful with the angle of pressure I put when twisting as to not pull\push the threads, just twist.
 
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TomOsiris said:
honestly, as far as I can tell no damaged threads so far! Nothing that looks like it needs a threaded insert/helicoil.
Just insanely seized but I'm very careful with the angle of pressure I put when twisting as to not pull\push the threads, just twist.
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Corrosion or electrolysis must not have been that big of a deal. Frustration and PITA aside, you lucked out that part of the head did not stay stuck in the grooves. I do not know how the AL head was stronger than the steel plug.
Are you going to run a thread cleaner/chaser before installing new plugs?
 

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7991LXnSHO said:
Corrosion or electrolysis must not have been that big of a deal. Frustration and PITA aside, you lucked out that part of the head did not stay stuck in the grooves. I do not know how the AL head was stronger than the steel plug.
Are you going to run a thread cleaner/chaser before installing new plugs?
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Yes definitely, now that the head gasket is confirmed blown I have to have them off anyways, so they will be getting planes/resurfaced, all threads cleaned, etc.
Will also be using ARP studs and a beefy gasket so this thing can hold up the abuse I am going to put it through at the drift track
 
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I've seen it with NGK but never a Motorcraft plug (well the older ones anyway)
Man card stamped for getting that out
 

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manicmechanic007 said:
I've seen it with NGK but never a Motorcraft plug (well the older ones anyway)
Man card stamped for getting that out
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Only 5 left to go!
Every one of the 3 I've gotten out so far have snapped
 

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Only 5 left to go!
Every one of the 3 I've gotten out so far have snapped
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I’d try an impact on one of them. Since they’re fubar anyways, it might help shake them loose.
 
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I’d try an impact on one of them. Since they’re fubar anyways, it might help shake them loose.
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Definitely thought about it, I'd have to take headers off to get to them, didn't plan on doing that until heads came off to do the gasket.
I figured I'd try to get the plugs loose now to save time later, and that way we can at least do a compression test with the engine still together just to see what it shows.
 

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TomOsiris said:
Definitely thought about it, I'd have to take headers off to get to them, didn't plan on doing that until heads came off to do the gasket.
I figured I'd try to get the plugs loose now to save time later, and that way we can at least do a compression test with the engine still together just to see what it shows.
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I had thought about using one of the "drill type" electric screw gun impacts on them.... it might rattle em enough to loosen them where an Air impact might be a bit much...
 
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limp said:
I had thought about using one of the "drill type" electric screw gun impacts on them.... it might rattle em enough to loosen them where an Air impact might be a bit much...
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TomOsiris said:
Definitely thought about it, I'd have to take headers off to get to them, didn't plan on doing that until heads came off to do the gasket.
I figured I'd try to get the plugs loose now to save time later, and that way we can at least do a compression test with the engine still together just to see what it shows.
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I’d pull the heads off and hit the plugs with the impact when they’re off the engine. They’ll 100% come out then. Beats being hunched over the fender screwing with them since the heads will be off anyways.
 
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With the heads off you can hit them with penetrating oil on both ends.
 
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General karthief said:
hit them with penetrating oil on both ends.
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Yeah, I know, sketchy as sht right?
 

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Yeah, I know, sketchy as sht right?
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If your current one wasn't already better...
 

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What the general said plus love taps
Lots of them
 
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alu/steel don't play well together. Real troubles on removal in these new long life applications (yr'n a half to over 50K mi). Had some come in w/"life time". No fun...
 

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chrlsful said:
alu/steel don't play well together. Real troubles on removal in these new long life applications (yr'n a half to over 50K mi). Had some come in w/"life time". No fun...
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somehow, have not damaged a single thread when taking these forsaken things out so far..
But even though it takes a LOT of force to twist them out (as seen above ^^^) I am very careful as to which direction I am applying force.
i.e., rotating directly on the axis of the threads and not diagonally
 
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