Hey alright im gonna need some help here....I'm going to be ordering some thumper heads..and i have my valve covers off already and the heads are ready to come right off soon...Now I realize that you have to remove the rockers, and pushrods from the heads to remove them...is that it? is there anythign else to it? And then all I would have to do with the new heads..is put the pushrods and rockers back on them in the same order.. correct? My question is should i buy new ones right away? or will these be ok yet to just reuse? i dont know to much about these or what to do look for so....theres is 165,000 on my car but compression test came up 155 perfect for all cylinders..so my rings and eveyrthing else are fine...i just need to konw what i should change or not while replacing the head assembly here..thanks guys
Help on Head Swap!!!!!!
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bmorrisj
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you dont have to remove the rockers, just loosen them and move them aside so you can grab the pushrods...less mess and clutter when yanking the heads
yep, i'm with speed1972. i'd get a nice set of rr's and some hardened pushrods. and a cam and new timing chain and gears. and an intake too. but if money is an issue. check the rockers for wear. check the push rod ends for wear. if they are ok you can reuse them, but at like a dollar a pushrod for stock replacement ones I would atleast do that. as for the rockers man if you're gonna spend the cash on the heads go ahead and get the roller rockers now so you don't have to do it again later. oh and last but not least you only have to loosen the bolts on the rockers and move them to the side and pull out the pushrods. make sure you put them in the same place when reinstalling them with the new heads. and if you have time check your roller lifters while you're at it. i checked mine when i put my new h/c/i combo on and two of them had cracks in them. scared me. hope that helps
I was gonna keep my stock cam in there...ive been told its actually got some performance in her...plus i have NO idea how to take that out..and im not lifting the engine to do that..seems like to much work i dunno...
1.6 roller rockers? i thought ppl were throwing 1.7's on there..what are the stock ones i have now? rollar?? how can u tell the dif..
1.6 roller rockers? i thought ppl were throwing 1.7's on there..what are the stock ones i have now? rollar?? how can u tell the dif..
If you're going to spend the $ for new rockers(I would) go with 1.7s you'll pick up a little lift over the stock lift. They'll get you 7-10hp more. Check your push rods for wear and roll them on a flat surface like a piece of glass or plate of steel if they're bent at all that'll show up. If they're all straight and look good use them. Spend a little more and buy good head gaskets instead of the $20 specials. Buy a new set of head bolts too. Mike
yea, the stock cam is good for a mild build, and with the stock cam 1.7 rr's will work. and the stock ones you have now are just that STOCK. the have alot of friction and are the killer in the valvetrain movement. putting roller rockers will help free up horse power plus more lift will give you more horses. it will also help reduce heat. as for telling the difference. stock rockers are stamped out metal with a fulcrum in the middle. they should have a ford factory number stamped on each one of them. rr's usually have 1.6 or 1.7 or 1.72 stamped on them. oh and as for pulling the motor to put a cam in, you do'nt have to do that. you would just have to pull the radiator and condensor
hey dude just wanna make sure you know you gotta pull the upper and lower intake before those heads come off. I'm changing gaskets now and I was trying to get my heads off last week w/o the intakes removed 
I believe stock rockers are 1.6 ratio and they aren't roller. Roller helps reduce friction against the pushrods, which doesn't necessarily create more horsepower, but will free up used horsepower (like goldbomb said), and it also makes it easier on your engine.
I believe stock rockers are 1.6 ratio and they aren't roller. Roller helps reduce friction against the pushrods, which doesn't necessarily create more horsepower, but will free up used horsepower (like goldbomb said), and it also makes it easier on your engine.
thumper460
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Cool... what they said!! look at the rockers and see if there is a lot of wear, like gouges in the metal, if not you can reuse them ( they are 1.6), push rods... the same!! you dont need new pushrods unless the ends are showing signs of wear, if not... use them!! And by all means DONT SKIMP on head gaskets!! and head bolts!! And above is right!! after 165K the timing chain is way tired!! AND we all know with the heads and power your going to twist the sucker.... come on now, you know you will!! I would change the timing chain!! With most of the engine out of there already... add about 3 hrs and get the t/chain changed!! cool??
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OOPS....PS ! the head gaskets have a front and back on them... make sure you locate the front marking and dont put them on backwards!! cool?? Tpr
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OOPS....PS ! the head gaskets have a front and back on them... make sure you locate the front marking and dont put them on backwards!! cool?? Tpr
IndyBlk5.0
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i have scorpion roller rockers 1.72's on mine and they fit with the stock cam.. I had to shave some of the valve cover and remove the oil baffle but they fit perfect... Scorpion brand seem to be a fatter/bigger rocker so they may be the reason it rub w/o modification but they others should fit with no problem... just make sure you check them before you bolt the valve cover down...
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