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Help! Turns Over No Crank Msd, Pcv, Vortech...

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RangerJoe

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http://www.msdignition.com/instructions/Products/Tech_Info/WDTN.PDF?terms=WDTN

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The fuel inertia switch is directly behind the drivers side tail light. behind the plastic. It has a red button on top. You can't miss it. Press the red button down if it is up Very likely you tripped it since you were playing around in the trunk.
 

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RangerJoe said:
If you cranked on the steering wheel with the car off, it will puke steering fluid.

There is a procedure to self yet the msd, but what I was referring to was unhooking it from your coil wires and just use the stock coil wires to peer the coil.

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sheesh peace of mind as per the steering fluid, thank u joe. I pushed the car in the garage last nite. I disconnected the msd from battery and coil. No start.
 

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RangerJoe said:
If you cranked on the steering wheel with the car off, it will puke steering fluid.

There is a procedure to self yet the msd, but what I was referring to was unhooking it from your coil wires and just use the stock coil wires to peer the coil.

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sheesh peace of mind as per the steering fluid, thank u joe. I pushed the car in the garage last nite. I disconnected the msd from battery and coil. No start.
 

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The fuel inertia switch is directly behind the drivers side tail light. behind the plastic. It has a red button on top. You can't miss it. Press the red button down if it is up Very likely you tripped it since you were playing around in the trunk.
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Found it pressed on the red button but it didnt budge
 

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How can it turn over but not crank? Turning over is cranking. Can you hear the pump prime? If you can chances are it has fuel pressure. I'd say its something with the msd. Check the connections. You also don't need a boost retard if your getting it tuned. To check for spark pull one of the wires, put a spark plug in it and hold it to ground. Crank the car if it has spark the msd is good. If not that's your problem.
 
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Shoot starting fluid at the air filter while someone cranks the engine. If it fires up you have a fuel delivery problem.

If you have a timing light, connect it to one of the spark plug wires and have someone crank the engine while you pull the trigger on the timing light. If the ignition is firing, the timing light should flash when the engine is cranked over. If the timing light does not flash, you have an ignition problem.
 

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John Dirks Jr said:
Shoot starting fluid at the air filter while someone cranks the engine. If it fires up you have a fuel delivery problem.

If you have a timing light, connect it to one of the spark plug wires and have someone crank the engine while you pull the trigger on the timing light. If the ignition is firing, the timing light should flash when the engine is cranked over. If the timing light does not flash, you have an ignition problem.
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Pump primes. I tried to start it w out msd(back to stock) nothing. No spark at coil. Coil is new, tfi is new, how do I test pip sensor? W a test light?
 

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bentley429isBAC said:
How can it turn over but not crank? Turning over is cranking. Can you hear the pump prime? If you can chances are it has fuel pressure. I'd say its something with the msd. Check the connections. You also don't need a boost retard if your getting it tuned. To check for spark pull one of the wires, put a spark plug in it and hold it to ground. Crank the car if it has spark the msd is good. If not that's your problem.
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Pump primes. I tried to start it w out msd(back to stock) nothing. No spark at coil. Coil is new, tfi is new, how do I test pip sensor? W a test light?
 

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bentley429isBAC said:
How can it turn over but not crank? Turning over is cranking. Can you hear the pump prime? If you can chances are it has fuel pressure. I'd say its something with the msd. Check the connections. You also don't need a boost retard if your getting it tuned. To check for spark pull one of the wires, put a spark plug in it and hold it to ground. Crank the car if it has spark the msd is good. If not that's your problem.
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Pump primes. I tried to start it w out msd(back to stock) nothing. No spark at coil. Coil is new, tfi is new, how do I test pip sensor? W a test light?
 

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Go back to the "Cranks Ok but no start checklist" I posted for you and start and the top and work your way down. The checklist is arranged with the most frequently failing items at first and then decreases in failure rate as you go down the list. Everything you need is in there, along with suggestions for tools and techniques. It will save you time, money, and energy.
 

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You are probably way over thinking this. When you put it back to stock you don't mean you just disconnected the power leads to the msd did you?
 

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''twas the pigtail that connects to the alternator. Add it to the check list. Got it running but missed my dyno appointment. Maybe they can get me in in 6 mo
 

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What happened to the pig tail? Get disconnected or fried?
 

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What happened to the pig tail? Get disconnected or fried?
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fried. Had butt load of miles on it. Had to replace the alt on Friday the new alt died on Monday. Got another alternator and replaced pig tail.
 

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Damn that's some right there
 

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Damn that's some **** right there
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Yeah, horrible. 5 months ago I called to get a dyno appointment and sept 16 was as soon as they could get me in. I took vacation, car didnt start, didnt, get to go.
 

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''twas the pigtail that connects to the alternator. Add it to the check list. Got it running but missed my dyno appointment. Maybe they can get me in in 6 mo
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Which pigtail? The one with the 2 black/orange wires or the D shaped one with 3 wires?
 

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Which pigtail? The one with the 2 black/orange wires or the D shaped one with 3 wires?
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