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Mstng93SSP

You have a nice rear end there Dave.
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There are 2 threads going on here, so what I will say may reference his other thread just to be clear. The IRS is cool, but not "needed" to make a car handle. Also, the whole weight reduction you are speaking of (other thread) is not really going to gain you anything on a street driven car. Nothing noticeable anyway. Here is what I have on one of my cars. Maximum motorsports front coilovers, maximum motorsports rear adjustable control arms, subframe connectors, 5 lug, 4 wheel disc brakes from a 95 cobra. Car handles great, rides great, brakes great with a real nice stance. I have ICE COLD AC which is a MUST for me. I am not a fan of body kits. A nice paint job on a straight fox is the best in my opinion. What you decide to do is obviously your decision and has to make you happy. I just want to say I have been doing these cars for nearly 30 years....talk about a "been there...done that" that's probably me. So, any advice I give comes from a lot of experience. The very first thing I would do...I would put the AC back on. You will thank me come July....

Chris

My car on the above described suspension.



 
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THe current plan a
a91what said:
Ok, so lets move forward now that things have cooled down a bit.

so whats the plan? we understand from your statements that the IRS is not yet available to you.. for obvious reasons with the way things are right now. That will make the car 5 lug, so lets help him get a list together for the swap then. What will he need to get the front of the car setup for the kind of build that he is planning? A link to the right location to do some self research is in order.
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ATM,

I'm waiting for my bushing and seal to arrive. I scored a shop that is OPEN who works on high-performance cars only 5 minutes from me who are going to install them for me. WIN!

I could do it myself, but I want to build a relationship with these guys so... They are more than happy to assist me with the build since they deal with a lot of BMW and Audis with like no space under the hood to work. They also have connections to a custom exhaust shop and welder... ANOTHER WIN!

After I handle my leaky tail shaft, it's on to the suspension. I set aside 2k for the IRS installation, 1k for a decent set of coilovers, and another 1k for wheels & tires, but until I know what Trump is going to do about these checks, I'm kinda holding on to the rest of my shekels. I'm already $1,800 in with the IRS, spindles, and calipers. I still need to get the bushings as well...

Now, I can take the cash set aside for the IRS install and move on to the front suspension. I'll still be 4 lug, but it's still a step in the right direction.
 

Mstng93SSP

You have a nice rear end there Dave.
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Are you saying 2k is the labor charge for the install of the irs? Just asking...

Chris
 

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Mstng93SSP said:
There are 2 threads going on here, so what I will say may reference his other thread just to be clear. The IRS is cool, but not "needed" to make a car handle. Also, the whole weight reduction you are speaking of (other thread) is not really going to gain you anything on a street driven car. Nothing noticeable anyway. Here is what I have on one of my cars. Maximum motorsports front coilovers, maximum motorsports rear adjustable control arms, subframe connectors, 5 lug, 4 wheel disc brakes from a 95 cobra. Car handles great, rides great, brakes great with a real nice stance. I have ICE COLD AC which is a MUST for me. I am not a fan of body kits. A nice paint job on a straight fox is the best in my opinion. What you decide to do is obviously your decision and has to make you happy. I just want to say I have been doing these cars for nearly 30 years....talk about a "been there...done that" that's probably me. So, any advice I give comes from a lot of experience. The very first thing I would do...I would put the AC back on. You will thank me come July....

Chris

My car on the above described suspension.



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I live in NJ. Where the summers are short, the winters are long and the roads SUCK. I have cracked 4 rims in the last 5 years just driving around town. Now, do I NEED the IRS? No, and the swap can be put off for sure (More like, don't have a choice), but I can put it off for a while. The smog delete and A/C delete came with the car. I do, however, have all the parts to put them back in, but I also have a 14 Fusion Titanium.

I fumbled with the idea of putting the A/C back in ever since I got the car and I probably will at some point, but since it was out when I bought the car and it was like 12 degrees outside at the time... All I cared about was the heat! LMAO. The heating core was leaking and my windows sweated like a black man driving with the cops behind him, but I was warm!

So, I can turn my sights onto something else until I can at least get the IRS up here.

As for the widebody, That is so far off and I'm still not sure if I'm going with a widebody or fender flares. You guys got me in the middle of planning the part that I haven't decided yet...

My wife tells me this all the time.. Finish thinking first, then bring the plan to me. So, you guys are spot on. It's just my process and I like to talk it out. It takes me a very long time to move on anything since it takes so long for me to chew on it. I like to bounce my ideas off of people to get what they think. And, that's what happened here, but the progress thread is my plan or at least as far as I got.
 

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Mstng93SSP said:
Are you saying 2k is the labor charge for the install of the irs? Just asking...

Chris
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Yes! 2k is for labor. I am going to do my best to get the lowest I can, of course, but I think that's reasonable.
 

Mstng93SSP

You have a nice rear end there Dave.
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I don't. For 2K you could buy one hell of a nice mig welder and do it yourself with lots of $ left over. Or, just put the IRS idea on hold for a while. For most of us on here we almost never pay someone to do anything on our cars. That's what these cars are about. With youtube you can teach yourself just about any skill you choose. We never had the internet back when these cars were new (er). It was a lot of trial and error so you have the internet advantage. Don't farm out work you can probably do yourself.
 
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Keionte

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Mstng93SSP said:
I don't. For 2K you could buy one hell of a nice mig welder and do it yourself with lots of $ left over. Or, just put the IRS idea on hold for a while. For most of us on here we almost never pay someone to do anything on our cars. That's what these cars are about. With youtube you can teach yourself just about any skill you choose. We never had the internet back when these cars were new (er). It was a lot of trial and error so you have the internet advantage. Don't farm out work you can probably do yourself.
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I agree 100%, sir!

I wanted to do it myself. Here's the problem. I don't have space. I've tried to find places to rent out.
I've contacted so many Youtubers who have done this work in their driveway. The ones who replied pretty much said no in a very respectable way or live way too far.
The closest is a 3-hour drive and I am still willing to make the trip. Hell, I even asked Steve if I could come down to him.

I have tried body shops and asked if I can rent some space and the answer was still no.

I got this car to cut my teeth on not to pay someone to do it.

I even had a friend of mine contact his guy that does work on cars and has all the equipment. As soon as I mentioned I'd like to help with the install he went dark.

As I said... nothing comes easy for me. I'm used to it.

But, at this point.. I have to accept my space limitations.
 

Mstng93SSP

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Yeah I totally get it, which is why I would put the IRS on the back burner for now. There are a lot of things that can be done in the driveway.

I used to go on this Mustang website a lot, but not so much any more. However, their member build section has a LOT of cool builds that might give you some direction on things you might want to do. Check it out.

Member Build-Up Projects

Post your build progress here. This is for complete build projects where you are doing comprehensive restoration or involved driveline swaps, etc. FORD VEHICLES OR FORD POWERED PROJECTS ONLY.
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90sickfox

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I charge 750.00 to install an IRS. That's the IRS, rear brake lines, sn95 e brake handle install, and rear brake cables. It isn't a very hard install at all if you have all the right parts. The IRS is a whole different car on the street.

You asked in your first thread about shorties or long tubes. I have experienced very good results with non equal length shorties. I'd never do equal length shorties again. Long tubes are nice but the gain isn't worth the hassle...especially on NJ streets. Shorty headers will bolt up to factory style pipes. It can be a hassle finding h pipes or x pipes for long tubes if you have to replace them later.

The question about X or H pipe.....I prefer the x pipe. The H pipe helps give that classic 5.0 sound though. I can't say I've had any hp gains with either one. I've just grown accustomed to the X pipe sound.

To be straight with you...if you plan to go turbo get non equal length shorties and a H pipe. It's cheaper since all that will change with turbo.

You did come off like a young jerk....

The only thing that saved you was Steve. I like that guy and consider him a real friend.
 
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I charge 750.00 to install an IRS. That's the IRS, rear brake lines, sn95 e brake handle install, and rear brake cables. It isn't a very hard install at all if you have all the right parts. The IRS is a whole different car on the street.

You asked in your first thread about shorties or long tubes. I have experienced very good results with non equal length shorties. I'd never do equal length shorties again. Long tubes are nice but the gain isn't worth the hassle...especially on NJ streets. Shorty headers will bolt up to factory style pipes. It can be a hassle finding h pipes or x pipes for long tubes if you have to replace them later.

The question about X or H pipe.....I prefer the x pipe. The H pipe helps give that classic 5.0 sound though. I can't say I've had any hp gains with either one. I've just grown accustomed to the X pipe sound.

To be straight with you...if you plan to go turbo get non equal length shorties and a H pipe. It's cheaper since all that will change with turbo.

You did come off like a young jerk....

The only thing that saved you was Steve. I like that guy and consider him a real friend.
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But, I'm not a jerk... I'm an *******... Huge difference... I hope I was able to clear all that up.

And please, PLEASE tell me where you are. I will send it to you and drive it to you to have it installed.

PS>> THAT WAS A JOKE!!!!
 
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General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Keionte said:
Dammit...

I already posted the Progress thread...

Should I delete it and change the name of this one?
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Yes, if you can pick something more, ah, mustang like.
 

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When the time comes for the swap you need every part needed. That could be one of the last things you do mechanically. Would be weird riding around with 5 lug front wheels and 4 lug rears though.
 

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When the time comes for the swap you need every part needed. That could be one of the last things you do mechanically. Would be weird riding around with 5 lug front wheels and 4 lug rears though.
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I have the budget all set aside for what I need. The guy I purchased the irs is selling me the spindles, brakes and line. Everything I will need for the swap.

Coilovers and wheels was pur to a hold when this shut down happened.

I was just caught up in this shut down and is why I'm sitting on shopping the parts.

But you are correct. I dont want 4 in front and 5 in back.
 
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Noobz347 said:
The terms 'wide body' and 'spacers' in reference to the same project means that nobody bothered to to their homework.


No... You should not go through all the hassle and expense of doing a widebody and still use spacers. Is the widebody something you've actually looked into or is something shiny that you saw before?

click on the link to take you to his page
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Why do guys like you act like complete idiots-you come across as juvenile H.S. jocks when a guy asks for simple advice?
 

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90sickfox said:
Yeah man...I know the feeling. I'd love to have a 275 or bigger in the rear. My quarters aren't rolled and I haven't taken a BFH to the inner wheel well. This is with a 245. ( old picture )



I wish I could get more than 265...but I don't see how it would fit without modifying. I think there's a guy here that has 275s on his irs fox. I'd like to know how he did it.
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I have 17X9s on the rear of my ‘86 with 275/40/17 tires. I swapped ends on my quad shocks for clearance.
 

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Why do guys like you act like complete idiots-you come across as juvenile H.S. jocks when a guy asks for simple advice?
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It's a gift.
 
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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Mikesbaron said:
Why do guys like you act like complete idiots-you come across as juvenile H.S. jocks when a guy asks for simple advice?
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Why do guy's like you feel the need to make comments using derogatory terms and name calling?
You could just as easily typed:
'Wow, maybe kinda harsh there and I disagree.'

Less words to type out and you'll show some class.
Just say'n
 

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Willybill32 said:
I have 17X9s on the rear of my ‘86 with 275/40/17 tires. I swapped ends on my quad shocks for clearance.
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I've got a 2004 cobra IRS in my car. Pushes the wheels out 1.5 inches per side and the frame for the IRS is in the way too. Sometimes I miss the old SRA with wide tires and 10 inch wide wheels but the ride and cornering is 10 times better.
 

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Mikesbaron said:
Why do guys like you act like complete idiots-you come across as juvenile H.S. jocks when a guy asks for simple advice?
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why do guys like you revive a thread from last year
 

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Mikesbaron said:
Why do guys like you act like complete idiots-you come across as juvenile H.S. jocks when a guy asks for simple advice?
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Yeh, that was a year ago. He is a year older now. Probably in college now.
 
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