Progress Thread Hoopty v2.0 - It All Snowballed

hoopty5.0 · Apr 15, 2019

So here's the back story:

I have a buddy who I've come to know over the last few years in LA. He's got a '93 coupe that he's been shoveling money into. New paint, new suspension, new everything. It's got the DIYPNP MSII like mine had as well. As I was fighting the last car, he was having very similar trials and tribulations with this car. It had a mysterious leak. It popped a head gasket. It popped another head gasket, etc...

Well, I guess this weekend, it popped a third head gasket somewhere in the neighborhood of 11psi. He thinks the timing is somewhere other than where MS thinks it is, but at any rate, he's done and over it. He listed it online right as I was driving to look at that rust bucket car, and for CHEEEEEEP. So I thought about it overnight and started talking to him about it. It's 98% finished, has a whole basket full of top shelf parts on it (as you'll see) and a fresh paint job to boot. It seemed dumb to let this go, so I told him I'd buy it. And so I did.

It's going to stay at his house for a bit until I can get moved and settled into the new place and then I'll go get it.

hoopty5.0 · Apr 15, 2019

hoopty5.0 · Apr 15, 2019

hoopty5.0 · Apr 15, 2019

So what's my plan?

- Fix the head gasket or whatever ails the motor
- put a 6# spring in the WG and let Steve work his magic, if he's willing
- finish the exterior trim paint and assembly
- install my new seats

- drive it. Don't phuck with it anymore. Concentrate on the wood work, make some money, and eventually convert to 5 lug and spend an absurd amount of money on custom wheels.

FoxMustangLvr · Apr 15, 2019

E7 heads? Does your buddy have any data logs from when the HG's popped? I think it would be helpful if Steve could view them if they exist.

95BlueStallion · Apr 15, 2019

I hope the fixes are easy for your sake. Looks like a nice car!

hoopty5.0 · Apr 15, 2019

FoxMustangLvr said:
E7 heads? Does your buddy have any data logs from when the HG's popped? I think it would be helpful if Steve could view them if they exist.

I'll ask, I'm sure that he does. He also thinks the timing could be off, so I'll check that too.

95BlueStallion said:
I hope the fixes are easy for your sake. Looks like a nice car!

Yeah, me too. I don't mind fixing these things, but full on pull-the-engine-out stuff is a no no for me any more.

stanglx2002 · Apr 15, 2019

Thats a REALLY nice looking car. Im glad that you are holding out for a nice one like this.

a91what · Apr 15, 2019

Yes any info you have would be great, outline the ignition system for me as well... does it have an msd box? Ect...

Now is the time to decide on sd or maf tune... you have the diypnp and experience. We can tune it maf and it will do well with small future mods.
Your choice, pigtail and 90mm lmaf are stupid cheap... or you could do it blow thru with a slot maf. It does not matter what size maf as long as it's not a restriction.

95BlueStallion · Apr 15, 2019

When we were having a firmware issue while tuning my car, he thought my timing was at 30* and when I checked it with a timing light it was at 50*! So yeah, funny things can happen. Luckily we figured it out while just sitting in my driveway piddling.

hoopty5.0 · Apr 15, 2019

a91what said:
Yes any info you have would be great, outline the ignition system for me as well... does it have an msd box? Ect...

Now is the time to decide on sd or maf tune... you have the diypnp and experience. We can tune it maf and it will do well with small future mods.
Your choice, pigtail and 90mm lmaf are stupid cheap... or you could do it blow thru with a slot maf. It does not matter what size maf as long as it's not a restriction.

Did I mention that it already has the DIYPNP in it? Im fine staying SD as it is now. I think there's going to be some things to change in the tune, but it will most likely be pretty close. I think something else is going on here, as far as engine issues go. Factory TFI ignition in it now.

a91what · Apr 15, 2019

95BlueStallion said:
When we were having a firmware issue while tuning my car, he thought my timing was at 30* and when I checked it with a timing light it was at 50*! So yeah, funny things can happen. Luckily we figured it out while just sitting in my driveway piddling.

I would like details on this if possible. That's more of an ignition settings issue not a firmware issue, unless one of the versions has a bug I'm unaware of.
Do you have a msd box installed?

95BlueStallion · Apr 15, 2019

Can’t lie Steve, the stuff coming out of his mouth went right over my head. But we verified that I had correctly set the base timing at 10* with the spout out, verified my firing order, etc. The dude talks 100 miles a minute while he plays on the computer. Maybe that issue was unrelated to the firmware issue, but to me it was all happening at the same time in my driveway.

Edit: No, no MSD box. 100% bone stock ingnition (all new, but Motorcraft)

Mustang5L5 · Apr 15, 2019

Damn. That thing is clean as hell.

HotFox · Apr 15, 2019

BIG step up from the rust coupe! Been meaning to catch you but I know your a bit busy with the house and all.

95BlueStallion · Apr 15, 2019

Weird. I don’t know if they are seat belt mounts or what, but why does my car have the two round plates underneath toward the middle, and yours doesn’t?

95BlueStallion · Apr 15, 2019

Mustang5L5 said:
Damn. That thing is clean as hell.

Isn’t it crazy versus what is our norm?

CarMichael Angelo · Apr 15, 2019

Well...everybody has got to be wondering,.....what does a car this nice cost? ( Hopefully the 15k budget guy is paying attention)

Mustang5L5 · Apr 15, 2019

95BlueStallion said:
Isn’t it crazy versus what is our norm?

Only time I see a car that clean is when it rolls off the dealer lot. One winter and it's never the same

hoopty5.0 · Apr 15, 2019

CarMichael Angelo said:
Well...everybody has got to be wondering,.....what does a car this nice cost? ( Hopefully the 15k budget guy is paying attention)

I can’t say. What i can say is I got it for just a red c hair more than i sold mine for and is not a solid data point for lobbying for/against current coupe prices.

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