Say both have fresh stock suspension and both full weight. What kind of horse does it take to run 12s? Oh and on street tires. Also lets say both have 302's. I'm not looking for an exact just a ball park.
Eh yeah nice try Ace but ya came up short.(that's what she said) The only time slips provided 2 were on drag radials. I stand corrected the guy w dr's didn't list hp numbers. Unless i missed it.. Interesting read though as far as threads go. Well I skimmed through but not bad.
I'm gonna say 275-300 rwhp in a fox.
Well I skimmed through.
I think around 3300lbs. Sounds pretty heavy though...Hey whats the weight of sn95????
Yes this is possible... But how many people have done it? Also this is on slicks. And weight reduction.Not a direct answer, but food for thought: http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/bob-cosbys-12-second-recipe.853108/
Hundreds, at least. Maybe thousands. I recognize it doesn't exactly fit the bill, hence the comment I made before posting the link.Yes this is possible... But how many people have done it? Also this is on slicks. And weight reduction.
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I guess when I said "full weight" I meant street car off the lot kind of thing. For instance the new gt's, don't they run 12s off the showroom floor? I was wondering what kind of power it would take the fox and 94/5's to do the same to get a pseudo apples to apples comparison. I know they all weight different. I guess I could've stated "off the lot what kind if power is required?"3300 sounds about right for an SN95... Maybe a little lighter for the GTS. Foxes varied, so "full weight" can be misleading. A full weight GT is easily over 3200, and probably closer to 3300 lbs. The lightest weight cars were optionless notches which came without A/C and weighed in at just less than 3000 lbs.
The stripper hatchback in the 13 second stock fox cars illustrated article weighed 3060 lbs straight from the factory. I don’t recall exactly what mine weighed because it has been a long time, but it was pretty close to this. Drop 70 lbs for the approximate weight difference of the hatchback body vs. the notchback, and that takes you to 2990. Now, I don’t know why you race at full weight, but I don’t. When I weigh my cars, I weighed them at my race weight. I also weighed the components that I took off of the car. The stock spare tire was 30lbs. The jack was 6 lbs. The dog-bone was 11 lbs. The gas tank holds 15.5 gallons. ¼ of a tank would be ~4 gallons. 15.5 gallons - 11.5 gallons drops 72 lbs. Therefore, the race weight minus the driver would be 2871.
I think that's underestimating the '85 significantly and overestimating the New GT a little. I'd guess the 85 mustang weights quoted were 4 cylinder LXs. You're probably close to the same as the '87-93s. It's the same chassis, motor, and a close enough body.The 85 mustangs weighed 2,795 to 2,853 pounds, depending on trim level. Sounds a little light but I got that of ehow. Its close though. I just know the verts are heavier.
The SN95 we say about 3300
The 2012 GT is about 3600
Yea, I agree about the whole traction and gears thing. I can easily keep up with a newer mustang as long as its a high rpm launch. Once you get up into the higher mph though they fly by!mmm... I see. Well, when you can swap gears and add traction, you don't need a whole hell of a lot of power to run a low ET. However, just after the finish line, that new GT is going to blow your doors off because it's trapping a lot higher.
If you want the equivalent power to keep with it even from a highway roll, or to match traps in the 1/4, I'd say a solid 300-320 rwhp.
I think that's underestimating the '85 significantly and overestimating the New GT a little. I'd guess the 85 mustang weights quoted were 4 cylinder LXs. You're probably close to the same as the '87-93s. It's the same chassis, motor, and a close enough body.
Here we go, mods get the ruler for hand slapping:That's what I was getting at. IF you READ instead of hitting the "easy answer button" then you tend to learn a lot. I wasn't trying to be an ass, just trying to help. If you wanna keep giving snarky responses, one of two things is likely to happen:
1) people are going to stop helping you
2) someone is going to call you out, things will get nasty, a mod will step in and slap everyone's hand.... Etc.
When I first found this site a few years ago, I spent days reading before even registering. It's a wealth of information and you can get a lot more by digging instead of hitting "post new thread" every time you come up with a theoretical something-or-other. Most times, it's already been answered and beaten to a pulp.