I f'ing love our millitary! (NHRA content)

[Johnnb]

So the wife and I won ticketts to the NHRA show in Kent and head up to the show on Saturday.

I hop out and we go the gates and as we get there I notice that there are Army guys all over the freaking place and I am thinking to myself YES! I have such a respect for our millitary that it's not even funny, especially being disabled and not able to serve our country.

Well for the most part the day started out mildly hot as it was overcast and towards the end of the first round of top fuel the skies cleared up and it got extremely hot.

We decided it would be a good idea to get our beach umbrella as people such as I being paralyzed from the waist down, don't sweat from their sensation level down as their brain can't make their body cool down and heat stroke can set in very quickly, especially the quads.

So I head back to the car and get to the line of people leaving and getting hand stamps and there are like 20 people in line waiting and to my right I hear a bunch of trash talking by about six or seven half drunk hicks. They were talking trash to two other guys walking bye and then got pissed and jumped on them and started kicking the crap out of them.

About that time 5 Army guys were walking by and asked one of the security dudes if they were going to do anything about it and he said they are suppose to call the police for things such as that and could not do anything about it. About that time one of the Army guys said, oh we can help out with this, and they jumped into the mix and whoped the isht out of them, flex cuffed them and held them until the police got there.

They were so quick, so effective and did not even break a sweat and as I was on my way back in I went and shook one of their hands and told him how greatful I was that they were out there serving our country. I asked him how it was he was in full camo fatigues and a black buret and not cracking a sweat? He said that they recently got back from Iraq where it was 135 degrees and wore 55-65lbs of gear which meant the heat index under all that was 155-160 degrees so the measly 101 degrees we were in were nothing.

I love our millitary, they are just amaizing!

If you don't like the millitary, if you are a big lib and hate Bush, or want to ruin my post please resist the temptation and start your own post.

 

[loud 95]

So the wife and I won ticketts to the NHRA show in Kent and head up to the show on Saturday.

I hop out and we go the gates and as we get there I notice that there are Army guys all over the freaking place and I am thinking to myself YES! I have such a respect for our millitary that it's not even funny, especially being disabled and not able to serve our country.

Well for the most part the day started out mildly hot as it was overcast and towards the end of the first round of top fuel the skies cleared up and it got extremely hot.

We decided it would be a good idea to get our beach umbrella as people such as I being paralyzed from the waist down, don't sweat from their sensation level down as their brain can't make their body cool down and heat stroke can set in very quickly, especially the quads.

So I head back to the car and get to the line of people leaving and getting hand stamps and there are like 20 people in line waiting and to my right I hear a bunch of trash talking by about six or seven half drunk hicks. They were talking trash to two other guys walking bye and then got pissed and jumped on them and started kicking the crap out of them.

About that time 5 Army guys were walking by and asked one of the security dudes if they were going to do anything about it and he said they are suppose to call the police for things such as that and could not do anything about it. About that time one of the Army guys said, oh we can help out with this, and they jumped into the mix and whoped the isht out of them, flex cuffed them and held them until the police got there.

They were so quick, so effective and did not even break a sweat and as I was on my way back in I went and shook one of their hands and told him how greatful I was that they were out there serving our country. I asked him how it was he was in full camo fatigues and a black buret and not cracking a sweat? He said that they recently got back from Iraq where it was 135 degrees and wore 55-65lbs of gear which meant the heat index under all that was 155-160 degrees so the measly 101 degrees we were in were nothing.

I love our millitary, they are just amaizing!

If you don't like the millitary, if you are a big lib and hate Bush, or want to ruin my post please resist the temptation and start your own post.

My only question is why there were soldiers there spectating in BDU's? It's also kind of risky to intervene from their standpiont. As a soldier, you can get in deep **** for stepping in to stuff like that. Having said that, I probably would have done the same.

 

[Johnnb]

Before the first round of top fuel eliminations they had all the soliders come out to the starting line where they introduced all of them and they took pics with Tony Schumacher and a lot of other people.

They had a whole thing going with them and special vid they showed on the big screen as well. They all were in camo and burets, and most of them as well had their tan camel paks on as well.

For the most part they hung out in the Army pits with Tony Schumacher and got VIP treatment like whoa.

I bet they could have got into some isht for stepping in but am glad they did as those two guys who got jumped were getting their asses handed to them.

Did you serve loud?

 

[smittyb]

Johnb, I am on your side, just wondering where you live? I can't wait to get out of this hippy liberal state and move back to a red one. The whole public sentiment around here makes me want to hurt people.

 

[Johnnb]

I actually live in Vancouver so I am a bit south of you in Marysville. I am always a bit shocked at how liberal the state goes the further you go north towards Seattle.

I don't care what politcal party you belong to but when I see anti-millitary bumper stickers and signs when I am at Pike St Market and such I start to get really upset.

 

[UnbridledFury]

Johnb,

Thanks for your support.

I thought it pretty awesome that Tony Schumacher won with all of those soldiers there. I know he had to be pretty stoked about that.

 

[blown04snake]

My only question is why there were soldiers there spectating in BDU's? It's also kind of risky to intervene from their standpiont. As a soldier, you can get in deep **** for stepping in to stuff like that. Having said that, I probably would have done the same.

OK - cant pass this one up. Having served in the US ARMY in the Vietnam era, it is the same today as it was then. A good soldier doesnt think about who is going to clean his boots when he steps in siht, he just steps in siht. A good soldier is going to do what is right, and doesnt think about the consequences. He just knows that it is the right thing to do. It is because of our military that we have the freedom to drive Mustangs. We could be driving Yugos, or Citrones or some other POS. Next time you see a soldier, salute him and shake his hand. This ones for you Jordan. Thank you my friend for preserving my freedom. Cobra Dave.

 

[DrkGreenStang]

Johnb, I am on your side, just wondering where you live? I can't wait to get out of this hippy liberal state and move back to a red one. The whole public sentiment around here makes me want to hurt people.

Move east! We're a bunch of flag waiving, gun-wielding conservatives over here... Seriously. lol Or Idaho. Idaho is a red state, in the NW, and will probably be my next big move.

 

[SMOKEDYA]

John where did tis happen atatthe track? Wewere there all 3 days sweating our ass's off !!!!!!! peace



john

 

[loud 95]

Before the first round of top fuel eliminations they had all the soliders come out to the starting line where they introduced all of them and they took pics with Tony Schumacher and a lot of other people.

They had a whole thing going with them and special vid they showed on the big screen as well. They all were in camo and burets, and most of them as well had their tan camel paks on as well.

For the most part they hung out in the Army pits with Tony Schumacher and got VIP treatment like whoa.

I bet they could have got into some isht for stepping in but am glad they did as those two guys who got jumped were getting their asses handed to them.

Did you serve loud?

Cool. I figured there had to be some sort of ceremony or something, as I know a group of soldiers would know better then to break uniform regulations. Not to mention, especially after a deployment to iraq or afghanistan, I would be in shorts and a damn t-shirt (Jordan knows first-hand). Now it makes sense. It always bugged me to see one or two idiot soldiers mixing and matching uniform pieces off duty, or simply wearing their BDU's to the mall in order to try to pick up girls. I was just curious. As for the fight, as I said, I definitely would have done the same. I hate drunken hillbillies. I have had a few run-ins with their kind before. They should stay in the hills, in trailers, brewing meth, where they belong.

 

[loud 95]

OK - cant pass this one up. Having served in the US ARMY in the Vietnam era, it is the same today as it was then. A good soldier doesnt think about who is going to clean his boots when he steps in siht, he just steps in siht. A good soldier is going to do what is right, and doesnt think about the consequences. He just knows that it is the right thing to do. It is because of our military that we have the freedom to drive Mustangs. We could be driving Yugos, or Citrones or some other POS. Next time you see a soldier, salute him and shake his hand. This ones for you Jordan. Thank you my friend for preserving my freedom. Cobra Dave.

Agreed. My point was that in the new army, the DUI's, misdemeanors and other small criminal **** that was largely tolerated during the vietnam era, is not tolerated anymore. As I am now 23, this is the army I know. I was trained in depth on the UCMJ and military law application, as officers have the unpleasant task of dealing with this type of stuff when it occurs in their units. I even recall, prior to my enlistment, seeing the looks of relief when I informed the recruiters that I had no criminal convictions, or even speeding tickets. I enlisted prior to september 11th, and the standards were high enough that they were turning away high school grads with even small criminal records. By the time I completed my Army ROTC program and was ready to commission, things had become so strict that any cadet in the program at U of O who received an MIP (minor in possession of alcohol) would have his or her scholarship immediately cut, no questions asked. Four years before, when I was a freshman, you were sort of allowed one "get out of jail free card." Not anymore.

So, as things pertain to the incident that John described, I wanted to make the point that even though it was probably the right thing to do to stop a one-sided brawl, legal trouble still could be made for the soldiers (hopefully not, as it sounds like there were plenty of witnesses). I guess I am a little paranoid, as I was always given the "what if" scenarios in military law class. I have a handfull of good friends who got shafted in situations like this when they were active duty, so hopefully you can see where I am coming from.

As for my military service, it has been sort of interrupted for the time being. I enlisted at the end of my junior year of high school in Army, active duty, 11bravo, ranger contract, etc. The recruiters were pissed, as I had nearly aced the ASVAB and they wanted me to take one of the communications MOS's that they could never fill. Not for me. I wanted to jump out of planes. During the fall of my senior year, I was persuaded by family and friends to apply for an Army ROTC scholarship, as I was a good student and a multi-sport athlete. I guess everyone around me thought that that I would be better utilized by the army if I was an officer.
Several months later, I found out that I got a 3 1/2 year scholarship, which I took. This terminated my enlistment and began my cadet life. Throughout college, I did all the cadet stuff (PT, ruck marches, leadership lab, etc.) while averaging 17 1/2 credit hours per term. Looking back, I wish I had gone national guard, as I would have made more money. Oh well.
Over the course of my last two years as a cadet, I developed a rare muscular condition in both lower legs that eventually prevented me from running and threatened to kill portions of tissue in both legs. Four surgeries, 250 staples later and one year after my college graduation, I am able to run about a mile and a half with no symptoms. I am awaiting on some custom insoles for my running shoes to prevent irregular ankle movement (caused by past sports injuries). Once I get those, I should hopefully be able to run 5 to 7 miles at my old pace. If so, I have to complete one month of training to get my commission, which I hope to god I can receive. It sucks seeing my friends go to ranger school and go to their units to deploy, when I can't even run well anymore. Oh well. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
So, when I see a veteran, I definitely show respect, as I know what it is to serve. I also know what it is like to want to, but not be able to physically do it anymore. I knew what it was like to be disabled as well, as I lived with intense pain every day for about three years and spent two summers on crutches. It's nice when you go to the supposed "good doctors" in the state and they have no clue how to help you. It took me six months of getting turned away my numerous doctors before I found one that would help me. That is my story in a nut shell. Sorry for the long post.

 

[ASD]

I hate drunken hillbillies. I have had a few run-ins with their kind before. They should stay in the hills, in trailers, brewing meth, where they belong.

I live in the hills with the drunken hillbillies! Geoff lives around the corner and you live across on the other hill.

 

[loud 95]

I live in the hills with the drunken hillbillies! Geoff lives around the corner and you live across on the other hill.

Yeah, that's about right. Though, I don't think anyone on my hill cooks meth. What about your hill? Hopefully Geoff doesn't show up to one of the meets with horrible burns from a meth cooking mishap...

 

[smittyb]

Move east! We're a bunch of flag waiving, gun-wielding conservatives over here... Seriously. lol Or Idaho. Idaho is a red state, in the NW, and will probably be my next big move.

I am sir. To Tennessee as a matter of fact. After living in quite a few different states, and then here, I would have to say if I lived in Eastern WA, I would do everydamnthing I could to split the state right down the mountains.

 

[blown04snake]

Agreed. My point was that in the new army, the DUI's, misdemeanors and other small criminal **** that was largely tolerated during the vietnam era, is not tolerated anymore. As I am now 23, this is the army I know. I was trained in depth on the UCMJ and military law application, as officers have the unpleasant task of dealing with this type of stuff when it occurs in their units. I even recall, prior to my enlistment, seeing the looks of relief when I informed the recruiters that I had no criminal convictions, or even speeding tickets. I enlisted prior to september 11th, and the standards were high enough that they were turning away high school grads with even small criminal records. By the time I completed my Army ROTC program and was ready to commission, things had become so strict that any cadet in the program at U of O who received an MIP (minor in possession of alcohol) would have his or her scholarship immediately cut, no questions asked. Four years before, when I was a freshman, you were sort of allowed one "get out of jail free card." Not anymore.

So, as things pertain to the incident that John described, I wanted to make the point that even though it was probably the right thing to do to stop a one-sided brawl, legal trouble still could be made for the soldiers (hopefully not, as it sounds like there were plenty of witnesses). I guess I am a little paranoid, as I was always given the "what if" scenarios in military law class. I have a handfull of good friends who got shafted in situations like this when they were active duty, so hopefully you can see where I am coming from.

As for my military service, it has been sort of interrupted for the time being. I enlisted at the end of my junior year of high school in Army, active duty, 11bravo, ranger contract, etc. The recruiters were pissed, as I had nearly aced the ASVAB and they wanted me to take one of the communications MOS's that they could never fill. Not for me. I wanted to jump out of planes. During the fall of my senior year, I was persuaded by family and friends to apply for an Army ROTC scholarship, as I was a good student and a multi-sport athlete. I guess everyone around me thought that that I would be better utilized by the army if I was an officer.
Several months later, I found out that I got a 3 1/2 year scholarship, which I took. This terminated my enlistment and began my cadet life. Throughout college, I did all the cadet stuff (PT, ruck marches, leadership lab, etc.) while averaging 17 1/2 credit hours per term. Looking back, I wish I had gone national guard, as I would have made more money. Oh well.
Over the course of my last two years as a cadet, I developed a rare muscular condition in both lower legs that eventually prevented me from running and threatened to kill portions of tissue in both legs. Four surgeries, 250 staples later and one year after my college graduation, I am able to run about a mile and a half with no symptoms. I am awaiting on some custom insoles for my running shoes to prevent irregular ankle movement (caused by past sports injuries). Once I get those, I should hopefully be able to run 5 to 7 miles at my old pace. If so, I have to complete one month of training to get my commission, which I hope to god I can receive. It sucks seeing my friends go to ranger school and go to their units to deploy, when I can't even run well anymore. Oh well. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
So, when I see a veteran, I definitely show respect, as I know what it is to serve. I also know what it is like to want to, but not be able to physically do it anymore. I knew what it was like to be disabled as well, as I lived with intense pain every day for about three years and spent two summers on crutches. It's nice when you go to the supposed "good doctors" in the state and they have no clue how to help you. It took me six months of getting turned away my numerous doctors before I found one that would help me. That is my story in a nut shell. Sorry for the long post.

The long post is OK. Sounds like we are on the same page my friend. My thoughts and prayers are with you in your quest to finish your commission. I hope all goes well with future treatments and healing . Nothing worse than wanting to serve your country and not being able to because of physical limitations. Good luck.

 

[tehnick]

I am not left winged, or right winged, but more towards the middle. I will say that it does make my teeth kicking boots start to rattle when I see people display gross demonstrations againts our troops and say some of the horrible things about them that they say. Don't even get me started on the funeral protests.

I will leave it at this... If you can't stand behind our troops, then please get in front of them

 

[DrkGreenStang]

I am sir. To Tennessee as a matter of fact. After living in quite a few different states, and then here, I would have to say if I lived in Eastern WA, I would do everydamnthing I could to split the state right down the mountains.

I'm a ma'am.

I'm all for splitting the state...

 

[loud 95]

I am not left winged, or right winged, but more towards the middle. I will say that it does make my teeth kicking boots start to rattle when I see people display gross demonstrations againts our troops and say some of the horrible things about them that they say. Don't even get me started on the funeral protests.

I will leave it at this... If you can't stand behind our troops, then please get in front of them

Yeah, tell me about it. I went to the University of Oregon in Eugene, which is one of the most liberal cities you can find. Every thursday, all of the cadets had to wear their BDU's prior to our training in the afternoon. It was interesting during all of the protests. There were all kinds of hippies lurking around campus and causing trouble. I was cursed at and called a baby killer. Of course, people would yell it from afar, or as they rode by on a bicycle. Nobody ever said anything when they were close enough for me to get a hold of them. Suddenly I felt as though I knew what the 1960's had been like on that campus.

 

[smittyb]

I'm a ma'am.

I'm all for splitting the state...

Guess I should read the CT's from now on!

 

[tehnick]

Yeah, tell me about it. I went to the University of Oregon in Eugene, which is one of the most liberal cities you can find. Every thursday, all of the cadets had to wear their BDU's prior to our training in the afternoon. It was interesting during all of the protests. There were all kinds of hippies lurking around campus and causing trouble. I was cursed at and called a baby killer. Of course, people would yell it from afar, or as they rode by on a bicycle. Nobody ever said anything when they were close enough for me to get a hold of them. Suddenly I felt as though I knew what the 1960's had been like on that campus.

It's typical. People are cowardly and spineless. It's like people who talk trash from the safety of their computer chairs. Total cowards. A lot of those people are just plain ignorant. It doesn't take much to pop off at the mouth, and sadly those people don't learn even when they GET popped in the mouth.

I wasn't born with enough middle fingers