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Ignition Timing-Where To Start?

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  • Start date Start date Jun 26, 2010

horseballz

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Hey All,
Here is the engine:
>New late 90s "Explorer" 5.0
>GT40-"P" heads
>B303 roller cam
>1.7/1 ratio roller rocker arms
>Mallory Magnetic Breakerless Distributor #57 series
>Performer RPM intake
>Autolite 4100 1.12" venturi carb
>Tri-Y headers (currently open)

Here's what I've done:
Engine first started at about TDC, tried 10 degrees BTC at about 800-850 RPM and wouldn't run well or idle evenly under 1000 RPM. It's been suggested that, because the idle won't go low enough to negate the mechanical advance, I should set for "all-in" timing above 3000 RPM. Best running appears to be at about 40 or more degrees which gives me between 25 and 30 degrees at 1000 RPM. Is this in the ballpark? How do I figure out where it should be? Where it is currently seems to run pretty well (when I stand on it, it goes like a raped ape) still won't idle below 950 or so without loading up. With the open headers, I can't tell if there is any spark knock, but engine starts well without "kicking back" on the starter. I've tried setting timing and carb with a vacuum gauge, but don't know if it works well at such a high idle. Maximum vacuum is about 14 inches. Any and all thoughts, comments and suggestions are welcome.
Thanx In Advance,
Gene
 

blown65

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I doubt it wants 40 degrees for full power. 34-36 total is a good starting point and 12-20 for your initial advance. I usually run more initial than most seem to.

The all in by 3000 sounds good though.
 
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One thing you're doing wrong is trying to tune it with open headers. Put a cork on em, then try tuning the ignition and carb.
 

horseballz

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D.Hearne,
You are so right and I am so DUH! Engine runs quite differently with a couple of mufflers and some pipe. Thanks for confirming what I though I noticed. Blown65, I'll take that under advisement. You guys have put me on the right track.
Thanks So Much,
Gene
 

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is this a brand nw build ? if so, when you first fired it up, did you run it at a high RPM for 20 minutes or so to break in the cam ? or is that not an issue with a roller cam ??
 
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No breakin time needed with a roller cam.
 
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