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Installing a rear firewall? Battery relocate?

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  • Start date Start date Sep 14, 2007

Fett

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I just bought a battery relocate kit that came with a plastic box.....so basically it isn't NHRA legal. After reading the rules it says that if I have a firewall behind the rear seat, then the box will be fine.

Has anybody installed a firewall behind the rear seat? I would simply sell the kit I bought and buy the correct box, but I was planning on doing this ASAP and I don't have the time to wait for another box to be shipped....and we have no local speed shops.

Just curious.
 

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Some wiring help in case you haven't seen it before...

Rear mounted battery ground wiring. Follow this plan and you will have zero
ground problems.


One 1 gauge or 1/0 gauge wire from battery negative post to a clean shiny spot
on the chassis near the battery. Use a 5/16” bolt and bolt it down to make the
rear ground. Use a 1 gauge or 1/0 gauge wire from the rear ground bolt to a clean
shiny spot on the block.

One 4 gauge wire from the block where you connected the battery ground wire to
the chassis ground where the battery was mounted up front. Use a 5/16” bolt
and bolt down the 4 gauge engine to chassis ground, make sure that it the metal
around the bolt is clean & shiny. This is the alternator power ground.

The computer has a dedicated power ground wire with a cylindrical quick connect
(about 2 ½”long by 1” diameter. It comes out of the wiring harness near the
ignition coil & starter solenoid (or relay). Be sure to bolt it to the chassis ground
in the same place as you bolted the alternator power ground. This is an
absolute don’t overlook it item for EFI cars


Picture courtesy timewarped1972


Crimp or even better, solder the lugs on the all the wire. The local auto stereo
shop will have them if the auto parts store doesn't. Use some heat shrink tubing
to cover the lugs and make things look nice.

For a battery cut off switch, see
http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=42225 is the switch
http://www.moroso.com/catalog/images/74102_inst.pdf
Use the super duty switch and the following tech note to wire it and you
will be good to go.

Use the Moroso plan for the alternator wiring and you risk a fire.
The 10 gauge wire they recommend is even less adequate that
the stock Mustang wiring.

There is a solution, but it will require about 40' of 18 gauge green wire.

Wire the battery to the two 1/2" posts as shown in the diagram.

The alternator requires a different approach. On the small alternator plug
there is a green wire. On the diagram it is #904, lt green/red wire that connects
to the alternator and dash light. It is the sense lead that turns the regulator on
when the ignition switch is in the run position. Cut the green wire and solder the
40' of green wire between the two pieces. Use some heat shrink to cover the
splices. See http://fordfuelinjection.com/?p=7 for some excellent
help on soldering & using heat shrink tubing.

Run the green wire back to the Moroso switch and cut off the excess wire.
Try to run the green wire inside the car and protect it from getting cut or
chaffed. Crimp a 18 gauge ring terminal (red is 18 gauge color code for the crimp
on terminals) on each wire. Bolt one ring terminal to each of the 3/16" studs.
Do not add the jumper between the 1/2" stud and the 3/16" stud as shown it the
Moroso diagram.

How it works:
The green/red wire is the ignition on sense feed to the regulator. It supplies
power to the regulator when the ignition switch is in the run position. Turn
the Moroso switch to off, and the sense voltage goes away, the voltage
regulator shuts off and the alternator quits making power.



See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) &
Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-90 wiring and lots more…

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss and Stang&2birds.
 
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there are two plastic boxes which are sfi approved or track legal..Moroso and I beleive Summit makes the other (Moroso with Summit logo) do you have one fot he blue moroso boxes? If so no firewall needed.
 

Fett

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No, mine is a Jegs. It said it was "NHRA approved"....but in the tiny print it says "with approved firewall".

I figured I am not going to install a firewall, I am already having issues with getting air into the trunk for my single 10". So I am going to re-sell my kit and buy the correct box.

Thank you jrichker for that write up, I found it on another thread you posted on and bookmarked it. I plan on following it to the T when I do this.
 
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if you do the moroso plastic box kit it is NHRA approved without firewall..its a blue poly box..very nice and good seal with easy access. I run an aluminum battery box (taylor also very nice) and I run a firewall...(Im scared of my nitrous bottles )
 

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http://www.wolferacecraft.com/detail.aspx?ID=296
 
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