Iran wants a nuke, Does anybody care?

[69Rcode_Mach1]

"I think there is a misunderstanding here. " 69 Mach I wins the understatement award.

Hey......I was referring to the statment made by CBZ and genocide, not the whole ordeal. Leave me alone..

 

[CBZGT50]

Hey......I was referring to the statment made by CBZ and genocide, not the whole ordeal. Leave me alone..

Hey mach 1, you in SLC? I am from WVC. I grew up in Utah and left for the military at 19 instead of a Mormon mission as all my other cousins have. I wanted to fight for my country in the first gulf war. I stayed in for nine years and got booted for a sports injury. I am a government contractor now and work in the internet security field.

Many people have made 1st amendment statments here as I have. I agree to be in Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, or where ever it is that we are needed to protect our borders. I have no religious bearing on the middle east. In fact I was born and raised straight Mormon in Utah and had no belief and decided to leave my religion. I am not a heratic, I just think everyone may choose any religion they want. If it has to do with war and culteral genocide and someone needs to step in to stop it, then that is what we are doing. I am sad for all the troops who die in the wars, but they all volunteered to do what ever the president wanted.

I have no propaganda. I am a peaceful person because of how I was raised. I don't hate, I forgive. Peace?

 

[69Rcode_Mach1]

Hey mach 1, you in SLC? I am from WVC. I grew up in Utah and left for the military at 19 instead of a Mormon mission as all my other cousins have. I wanted to fight for my country in the first gulf war. I stayed in for nine years and got booted for a sports injury. I am a government contractor now and work in the internet security field.

Many people have made 1st amendment statments here as I have. I agree to be in Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, or where ever it is that we are needed to protect our borders. I have no religious bearing on the middle east. In fact I was born and raised straight Mormon in Utah and had no belief and decided to leave my religion. I am not a heratic, I just think everyone may choose any religion they want. If it has to do with war and culteral genocide and someone needs to step in to stop it, then that is what we are doing. I am sad for all the troops who die in the wars, but they all volunteered to do what ever the president wanted.

I have no propaganda. I am a peaceful person because of how I was raised. I don't hate, I forgive. Peace?

Yeah I am in Sandy, which is the suburbs of SLC. Sounds like we would get along great. It sucks all my friends are leaving on missions, makes it depressing being here all alone. I am not mormon either, and happen to be agnostic, but I am not your typical non mormon heretic anti-christ in Utah. I have no problems with mormons unlike other non mormons in this state, I am surrounded by extremeists I think that is what gives me my peaceful nature. Either everyone here is a molly mormon or they are anti-anything religious or respectable. I fall in between like a normal person outside of Utah would, just getting a little annoyed now. Eager to leave here as soon as I get commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant. I am hoping to be a fighter pilot, and protect my nation like you. I am only 18 right now though, so I still have probably 2 years of college and ROTC left till I get commissioned and start flying so hopefully when I am 20. Luckily I have the stangs, Jiu Jitsu training, and the Air Force to keep me company. I love it never ever will leave it if possible, unless I was moving to better things. I will probably work military or NASA my whole life so I can feel fulfilled.

Even for people like TrunkFunk. (just kidding buddy)

 

[Michael Yount]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...6855.story?coll=chi-newsopinioncommentary-hed

 

[TrunkFunk]

Islam's "innocent civilians" make a piñata out of an American contractor...

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[fiveohwblow]

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ARE THEY ALL SMILING BECAUSE THEY'RE HAPPY or BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO WHEN PEOPLE TAKE A PICTURE

If I was that guys family, I would be doing what it takes to turn those smiles upside down!

 

[69Rcode_Mach1]

That is a terrible thing to see. Either way you mean to let that handful of idiots speak for a billion people that follow that faith.

Well lets see the other side of the coin.
http://www.americanlynching.com/photos-old.htm

I guess all white christians are evil murderers, that take pleasure in killing black people. Long live the klan right TrunkFunk, after all they are the knights of christianity.

 

[TrunkFunk]

Well lets see the other side of the coin.
http://www.americanlynching.com/photos-old.htm

I guess all white christians are evil murderers, that take pleasure in killing black people. Long live the klan right TrunkFunk, after all they are the knights of christianity.

You're too funny ... and too mis-informed.
It's Knights Of Columbus I believe you are referring to.

Besides, I thought you were going to show us the other side of the coin, but I didn't see any "Christians" lynching contractors on that site only a bunch of pissed off rednecks lynching black men accused of crimes.
I didn't look at many pics either, were there pics of crowd idiots jubilantly smiling?
I say we get in our time machines and go back and kill those guys.

Besides, I agree with you, I hate the true Christian Americans just as much as you do. They are causing so much problem in the world right now and are just as guilty as the innocent Muslims.

The term oxymoron comes to mind.
Christianity and racism go hand in hand don't they.

Let me ask you, what was the crime of the American contrators above ? ...
Attempting to rebuild their country.



Ps - Can you link me to a site where peaceful Muslims are doing humanitarian services in Africa and some South American cess pool countries?

 

[TheDamned]

The governement wants you to believe they have nuke to kill people because they want you to support them to go to war ... again.

 

[TrunkFunk]

The governement wants you to believe they have nuke to kill people because they want you to support them to go to war ... again.

Well the Swine of France just made a statement the other day that France itself would use unconventional weapons against any nation that used terrorism on French soil.

I guess the peaceful Muslims rioting and burning through 900 French cities was enough.

Living in Quebec I'm sure you can draw your own conclusion on what Chirac knows.

First though, I think you guys up there need some media outlets besides the liberal/socialist slant.

 

[WldstrawbryLX]

Yeah...I care. Dont ya'll think they're abit too fanatical??

 

[69Rcode_Mach1]

Besides, I thought you were going to show us the other side of the coin, but I didn't see any "Christians" lynching contractors on that site only a bunch of pissed off rednecks lynching black men accused of crimes.

Umm those men are Christians, the KKK believes themselves to be the Christian Knights and that it is their obligation to purify our nation. They lynched innocent Black people because they felt they were inferior, sorry my bad they weren't contractors I will try to find the exact situation next time.

I say we get in our time machines and go back and kill those guys.

That would be the idiots solution, like the one you are suggesting right now.

Besides, I agree with you, I hate the true Christian Americans just as much as you do. They are causing so much problem in the world right now and are just as guilty as the innocent Muslims.

The term oxymoron comes to mind.
Christianity and racism go hand in hand don't they.

Again your childish remarks make you overlook the big picture, I want you to stretch your mind a little bit, I know that can be hard sometimes, but please try. Your arguments are making you sound dumber and dumber.

Let me ask you, what was the crime of the American contrators above ? ...
Attempting to rebuild their country.

Well what were the crimes of the Blacks persecuted by the KKK, and white supremacist *******s, um trying to make a living in our country and being accepted as equal. Nothing they were killed because they were black, and in the name of Christianity according to the KKK. Now please do not deny this, most every American knows this and regrets being associated with the senseless murders that have occurred. Denying it will make you sound like an idiot.

Ps - Can you link me to a site where peaceful Muslims are doing humanitarian services in Africa and some South American cess pool countries?

I think the problem at hand is that their country is a ****hole and that they cannot even provide for themselves, how do you expect them to help others when they can't even survive themselves.


Please sit down and think through this thoroughly before replying, I really hate to get gritty, but your statements are absolutely ridiculous, and you are digging your own grave.

 

[fiveohwblow]

I think you guys confuse what true christianity is and when people claim to be Christians. Right now we all claim to love Mustangs. I could claim to be 65 and you couldnt prove me wrong nonethelike. If you want to get contextual, which I do, I am going to share with you what true Christianity is so you dont get it twisted anymore. Before you say you got it right, just listen. I am looking at this from a theoretical standpoint, and yes also a personal perspective. To be a "Christian" has nothing to do with our claims. You want to coin people, then know what the face of the coin looks like. God clearly states that He chose us, not us choosing Him. Thus, our decisions are obviously not as important as his. We choose wrong/sinful/evil, however you want to call it, all the time. Obviously you are grouping poor decisions and claims as gospel. I dont believe that the crusades were done in Christianities name, nor do I believe that the KKK or Hitler or any of those who claim to be influenced by Christianity in one way or another were correct. God did not command killing of innocents, just those that opposed "his people" and that was mainly in the Old Testament. "...Saul has slain his thousands, David his tens of thousands..." I know my God has a righteous anger, and his decisions are something we cannot comprehend, along with his judgements. So before you go grouping imperfect choices that imperfect people who claim a faith to a perfect God are acts of "True Christians" I say you consult God who is actually the judge of that. Allbeit that every Christian makes mistakes, however a "true Christian" is led by the spirit that Christ sent as he ascended. This spirit does not say hate at all, but in fact the commandment given was "If at possible, be at peace with everyone." Quit calling these people Christians, as their faith is their own, not that of my God.

 

[CBZGT50]

Jesus! This is the longest thread ever and I started it because I have to watch Fox New at work every night!

Lots of opinions.

Cheers

 

[TrunkFunk]

Umm those men are Christians, the KKK believes themselves to be the Christian Knights and that it is their obligation to purify our nation. They lynched innocent Black people because they felt they were inferior, sorry my bad they weren't contractors I will try to find the exact situation next time.

That would be the idiots solution, like the one you are suggesting right now.

Again your childish remarks make you overlook the big picture, I want you to stretch your mind a little bit, I know that can be hard sometimes, but please try. Your arguments are making you sound dumber and dumber.

Well what were the crimes of the Blacks persecuted by the KKK, and white supremacist *******s, um trying to make a living in our country and being accepted as equal. Nothing they were killed because they were black, and in the name of Christianity according to the KKK. Now please do not deny this, most every American knows this and regrets being associated with the senseless murders that have occurred. Denying it will make you sound like an idiot.

I think the problem at hand is that their country is a ****hole and that they cannot even provide for themselves, how do you expect them to help others when they can't even survive themselves.

Please sit down and think through this thoroughly before replying, I really hate to get gritty, but your statements are absolutely ridiculous, and you are digging your own grave.

Well junior,
Your inability to distinguish the simple difference between true Christianity and racism is completely sophomoric and beyond comprehension to me.

How can a person with the ability to type (such as yourself, which indicates an IQ of at least 80) not recognize the difference?

Maybe I should say 'at most'

I must also admire your inept skill at interpreting sarcasm and note it is worse than that of a babe. I'm just amazed you are able to construe a complete thought and then structure said thought in a somewhat comprehensible series of words

In summation I wish to help by informing you that thinking you are something doesn't make it so ... in your case, that would be an intellectual.


Post thought -
Have you used your mighty judo-chop on any burglars yet?
I believe you're 'lack there of' is showing on this thread son

 

[69Rcode_Mach1]

I am not saying that Christians are doing this, or they are evil. I am using an event to compare it to TrunkFunks claims. He is saying that a handful of Muslim radicals opposing American and supporting terrorism, means that we should nuke the whole middle east, and kill anyone associated with Islam because those murderers say they do it in the name of Islam. I was trying to compare his ridiculous statement to a similar thing happening with Christianity. Things like the above, and the Irish Terrorists who kill innocent people "in the name of Christianity". My point being that these ridiculous radicals like nazi's and klanmen claim to be doing it in the name of Christianity. Which is the same as the terrorists, they say they are doing it in the name of Islam. Do you understand where I am coming from fiveohwblow? I am not putting down your beliefs, just trying to prove a point to TrunkFunk. No offense intended, I am have nothing against Christians.

According to TrunkFunk we need to kill them all, I was pointing out that the same has happened with Christianity and that if we were to go with TrunkFunks thinking the innocent Christians should have been wiped out long ago by the current superpower. You see what I am saying? I am not taking shots at Christianity just drawing parallels to show that TrunkFunks proposal of killing everyone and his justification sounds like the talk of an uneducated, simpleton. He claims to be a civil Christian, but from everything he has said in this thread, he has the exact same mindset as a terrorist.

Again TrunkFunk you completely missed the point of my arguments, and as for sarcasm, I take it you have no reasonable argument, because your sarcasm doesn't even support your idea, it just completely leaves on a tangent of bashing me, and avoiding the topic at hand, because you have no valid argument and have realized it.

 

[timewarped1972]

on a lighter note, you know with this recently surfaced bin-laden tape they keep talking about the last couple days??

well i kid you not, i went to cnn.com, and they refer to bin ladens first name as "osama" .

i thought hmmmm, i went to fox.com, and they refer to him as "usama"......lol......so apparently if your more liberal he's osama, if your more conservative, he's an usama...these weren't typo's either as both tv networks showed the same thing.

no wonder we can't find him, we can't get his damn name right!!

what gets me is ( and don't flame me for this research this, it's true) back during the days of the afghan war, when the soviets tried to invade afghanistan, well, our goverment over saw some guys, that back then they called freedom fighters. these were the assembled forces helping to defend afghans from the soviet invasion. guess who one of the head leaders of the freedom fighters was?? yeah, osama ( or usama, lol) bin-laden........thats where that guy came from....which is why i don't get why in the hell they can't get his first name right!!!!! you'd think after dealin with the guy for almost 30 years they'd spell his name right!!!

ok, just a funny factoid............i'm done

 

[TrunkFunk]

on a lighter note, you know with this recently surfaced bin-laden tape they keep talking about the last couple days??

well i kid you not, i went to cnn.com, and they refer to bin ladens first name as "osama" .

i thought hmmmm, i went to fox.com, and they refer to him as "usama"......lol......so apparently if your more liberal he's osama, if your more conservative, he's an usama...these weren't typo's either as both tv networks showed the same thing.

no wonder we can't find him, we can't get his damn name right!!

what gets me is ( and don't flame me for this research this, it's true) back during the days of the afghan war, when the soviets tried to invade afghanistan, well, our goverment over saw some guys, that back then they called freedom fighters. these were the assembled forces helping to defend afghans from the soviet invasion. guess who one of the head leaders of the freedom fighters was?? yeah, osama ( or usama, lol) bin-laden........thats where that guy came from....which is why i don't get why in the hell they can't get his first name right!!!!! you'd think after dealin with the guy for almost 30 years they'd spell his name right!!!

ok, just a funny factoid............i'm done

Yeah, I think that was before O/Usama directed an attack on the civilian trade towers.
I guess at that time the government felt the reds were a bigger threat than the "freedom fighters".
Sorta the same deal with the Iraq/Iran war.
The lesser of two evils choice.


On a tangent note, I wonder why the "innocent civilians" of Islam haven't tipped us off as to the exact whereabouts of O/Usama yet

I wonder if he would have been apprehended already if he was in a Western nation
My crazy hunch is he would, but then again I suppose it's only a small handful of Muslims that support his brand of Islam

I think if we ever locate him, we should send in 69Rcode to "incapacitate" him rather than kill him outright

 

[Michael Yount]

"I wonder why the "innocent civilians" of Islam haven't tipped us off as to the exact whereabouts of O/Usama yet"

It ain't rocket science -- they're more afraid of the repercussions of snitching on him than they are of us....exact same thing happens here with gangs and the mob. It's next to impossible to get folks to give up the guilty parties because they're intimidated.

 

[jrichker]

Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information..........

It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"
Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. "Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.