Just remember every car is different, I think we put his car at 13 or 14 to start with.
is it just me?
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Just remember every car is different, I think we put his car at 13 or 14 to start with.
82CapriRS
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yeah ill have to see if i can bump it up a few. it runs decent now but im losing alot of low-end somewhere, its kinda makin me mad!
blackened88lx
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I dono, it could help a little. My car loved it. It's damn near stock and runs 100mph so something must be working. I usually just advance it till it pings then back off some. It's never pinged though so it could probably go another degree or so. Some of them ping as low as 12-14, and I've heard of some people going over 20. Do it at the track and see if it picks up mph.
82CapriRS
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yeah ill try it. im hittin almost 99mph now. so it would be pretty sweet to hit 100mph with the few mods i have. i'd be happy enough to throw a 100shot on lol. thanks guys an sorry for hijacking
Thank you bentley!! jeez. im sure i put my car to 17 and it'll run like crap.
and the peoplei know aren't kids, in fact, they are all adults. one of em has been raised around mustangs, has had an 11 sec Buick GS, and quite a few foxes. i always talk to him, and even he says that 17 would be too much. so yeah, like i said, im going with what i know and what ive been taught.
and the peoplei know aren't kids, in fact, they are all adults. one of em has been raised around mustangs, has had an 11 sec Buick GS, and quite a few foxes. i always talk to him, and even he says that 17 would be too much. so yeah, like i said, im going with what i know and what ive been taught.
blackened88lx
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You know ADULTS that put race gas in their stock rangers and 5.0s trying to go faster?? At least young, dumb, ignorant high-school kids have an excuse, but adults??
You're right about timing though, my car definitely runs like a complete pos with the timing that high. I mean, you advance the timing in a stock car and it's just completely unstreatable. You just can't control the thing until 5th gear. Roll into anymore than half and the timing kicks in like v-tak and you're in the woods. The cops are on a lookout for me. They can hear that 17 degrees coming from a mile away "oh ****, he's got that advanced timing stocker out again". Completely unstreatable man. They actually kicked me off the track too for not having an 8.50 cert. cage. I guess no one can handle this much timing. I rule.
ok one, its spelled unstreetable and two, i never said it wouldn't be streetable. and last, if you set your timing higher and higher, youre supposed to put higher octane fuel, giving me even more reason in the race gas part.
blackened88lx
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You thought I was serious? Come on now, I was busting on the other guy because he has no clue what he is talking about. Boy, thought I had a good one going guess you guys just didn't see it. Oh well I will just laugh to myself
skunk21
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just because someone shows you something or does something doesn't make it right or the "rule", you seem to be the impressionable type. rather than take the word of a few adults and just go by that educate yourself. If you took the time to search "timing" in tech you would see that the average advanced timing is 14 degrees. It is also possible on pump gas to go up 16 + degrees on some motors w/o issues, again these motors are well known on many stang forums, clubs and strips to respond to timing well.
I'll make this short since there is tons of info on this very subject,
education..The initial timing specs from the factory are conservative. To optain maximum engine performance from the stock 5.0. an inintial spark setting of 14 degrees is recommended, with the OE EEC-IV computer this comes out around 38 degrees advanced. AOD cars like a little less advanced spark. THe 1986 fastburn combustion chamber design requires less advanced spark timing and a mass air car using the 86 fastburn heads is limited to a maximum of 14 degrees. High compression motors, superchargers, turbos and nitrous also need less advanced spark timing. this info is from both text and online searching.
If you took the time you would also know that for optimum street performance you would advance the timing 2 degrees at a time accelerate under load then back it off once you get pinging this could be at 12-16 or more depends but to tell some one 16 or 17 is wrong makes you wrong.
If you are at the track and you want play with your timing you do the same thing but keep advancing until your times slow down then back it down until you dial in, this could be in a range from 14 up to 18 degrees. again this is in both text and online.
If you want to listen to those guys that is fine but if post it and push it onto others you are going to get guys who might think otherwise and just might know a thing or two. Don't believe everything you hear and be willing to learn before you argue.
i was seriously hoping you weren't, but i just had to make sure. besides which i didn't see anybody else notice it.
back on topic, im running 14 degrees timing (supposedly, im not the one who set it) on 87 octane fuel right now, no pinging whatsoever. i gotta fill up tomorrow anyway so ill put some 93 in it and fool around with upping the timing a bit, i would almost bet i could get a couple more degrees out of it. there's two more test-n-tunes this month, and one more vacation day to use until june, so we'll see how it all turns out.
blackened88lx
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