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olred

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My car has really, really ****ing annoying marks on the hood. It looks like someone took an eraser and scrubbed the hood. It was raining when I bought the car so I couldn't see the spots, otherwise I absolutely would have asked the guy wth. I've only been able to wash the car and wax the hood once since I got it. Tomorrow is supposed to be 70 degrees though, so I'd like to try and get rid of the annoying marks. They're literally all over the hood, but no where else on the car. It's so very noticeable too.

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You can see them in this picture, though they look like smudges. In real life they look white, or at least a different shade of orange.

I've never seen anything like it before and I'd just really love to know wth the guy did to it. Do yall have any suggestions for what I can do, aside from repainting the hood, to get rid of the marks? I've only waxed it once, but it literally made no difference whatsoever. It made the paint shiny, but the marks were still as noticeable as ever. If I wax it enough, will they eventually go away? Will claybar-ing it help? It's driving me crazy.
 

LarsD

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Maybe the paint is thin and that is primer you are seeing?
 
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darkside03gt

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Looks like some moderate to heavy swirls to me. You need some actual polish to remove it wax will just fill in the fine scratches. You can use meguires but I prefer adams.
 

SteedaGT9150

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try some meguiars ultimate compound.
 

sneaky98gt

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SteedaGT9150 said:
try some meguiars ultimate compound.
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+1. And if you have lots of time on your hands, follow that up with some Meguiar's Swirl Remover and Deep Crystal Polish. Wax on top of that and it will be looking dang good.



If those things don't get it out, then it's going to take a professional to get them out (if they will at all). And don't forget to follow up with a wax if you compound or polish anything.
 

slayerripkdc

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Those are swirls in the finish. They come from poor washing technique. You need to use a rotary buffer with some medium polish and use a fine polish follwed buy a good wax. Never EVER bring your car to a brush car wash!!!!!
 
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darkside03gt

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slayerripkdc said:
Those are swirls in the finish. They come from poor washing technique. You need to use a rotary buffer with some medium polish and use a fine polish follwed buy a good wax. Never EVER bring your car to a brush car wash!!!!!
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+1 but I prefer a random orbital buffer like a porter cable.

To the OP once you buff your car properly you need to start using a quality wash mit/pad and the two bucket method with drit guards in the bottom. It will really help keep the finish looking nice.
 

twogts4us

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Another vote for Meguiar's Swirl Remover - great stuff.
 

LarsD

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What do you guys use to scrub your car with when you wash it? I have a soft brush that I use to bucket wash with, but I can't help but think it isn't helping out my car's paint any.
 
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darkside03gt

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LarsD said:
What do you guys use to scrub your car with when you wash it? I have a soft brush that I use to bucket wash with, but I can't help but think it isn't helping out my car's paint any.
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Really? Good god man your killing the finish on your car. Brushes are about the worst thing you can use on your car. Get a mircro fiber mit from the parts store at a minimum. I acutaly use this stuff and love it Adam's Car Wash Trio.

Not everyone likes adams stuff for one reason or another but I have yet to find anything wrong with all the products I have used. But please at a minimum use the two bucket method and a decent mit/pad.

I am guessing you need a clear coat correction at this point. I would either look into doing it yourself (not that hard) or find someone who knows what they are doing and pay them.
 

LarsD

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darkside03gt said:
Really? Good god man your killing the finish on your car. Brushes are about the worst thing you can use on your car.
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Doh
 

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darkside03gt said:
+1 but I prefer a random orbital buffer like a porter cable.

To the OP once you buff your car properly you need to start using a quality wash mit/pad and the two bucket method with drit guards in the bottom. It will really help keep the finish looking nice.
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X2 on the 2 bucket method, and I think from the pics anyway a good polish will work wonders.
 
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I had a big project on my hands with my stang as well. The guy who owned it before me must have used automatic car washes all the time....
It took me 5 days start to finish to get it to an "acceptable" level. I pulled the car out of storage to run it for a while, and I was looking at the finish and it still isn't perfect enough for me...
I used a porter cable DA buffer, meguiar's ultimate compound, and then followed up with some Tutle wax ice liquid polish and pinnacle caranuba wax
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slayerripkdc

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Nice work! Black can be a PAIN IN THE BUTT lol.
 

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Good work man! It really is amazing how far a little knowledge about detailing and a lot of elbow grease can go. I hope olred can get the time to do hers, just as evidence on how much better you can make bad paint look with the right materials and a little time.

I'd post pictures of before/after the first time I did a full detail on mine with a buffer and all that jazz, but swirls and imperfections don't show very well on a silver car through a camera lens. But the difference in person is absolutely crazy.
 

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my fenders looks the same. so i hope its fixable
 

olred

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I know NOTHING about buffers. But aren't there like buffers that you can attach to an electric screw driver, or something like that? I'm completely dedicated to making my car look its absolute best, but I'm not really looking to spend more money if I don't have to. Does the compound work as well if you don't have a buffer if you spend like hours doing it?

I definitely do the two bucket/microfiber mitt washing method. I don't know what the guy who owned the car before me was thinking, but he really thought he did an awesome job keeping the car in good condition. Every time I pointed something out that was wrong with the car he'd get offended.
 

slayerripkdc

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check out detailcity.org......you can learn lots of information about keeping your finish at its best and also how to restore your finish. If you live close to the NYC area I can detail it for you.
 

olred

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slayerripkdc said:
check out detailcity.org......you can learn lots of information about keeping your finish at its best and also how to restore your finish. If you live close to the NYC area I can detail it for you.
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Thanks, but I live about as far away from NY as you can get...lol
 
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darkside03gt

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olred said:
I know NOTHING about buffers. But aren't there like buffers that you can attach to an electric screw driver, or something like that? I'm completely dedicated to making my car look its absolute best, but I'm not really looking to spend more money if I don't have to. Does the compound work as well if you don't have a buffer if you spend like hours doing it?

I definitely do the two bucket/microfiber mitt washing method. I don't know what the guy who owned the car before me was thinking, but he really thought he did an awesome job keeping the car in good condition. Every time I pointed something out that was wrong with the car he'd get offended.
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With the swirls you have it will take you an eternitiy to buff them out by hand. You should really consider buying a porter cable or similar buffer. Yes its pricey but it will be something you will have for a very long time and will be able to use on your car over and over to keep it nice. You will never get the same results with one of those drill powered buffing things as you will with a real DA buffer, period.

As for not knowing anything about buffers look up the junkman on youtube. He uses adams products but has some very good tips on how to use a buffer for a novice.
 
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