junkyard turbo?

[sheff2720]

well i'm trying to come up with next spring/summers project, and a junkyard turbo came to mind.. i did a search for it but didnt find quite what i was looking for.. what i want to know is how hard of a project is it? i would do everything except the custom work myself.. am i going to start this project and run into a number of unexcpected problems? realistically how much would something like this cost me at the end of the day? and what are the number possibilities here? i would obviously get bigger injectors, but wouldnt want to change much else.. so any info on this would be great.. thanks guys

 

[mikeflys1]

Check out www.turbomustangs.com

 

[sheff2720]

thanks i'll go check them out.. but ttt just incase anyone here has an info

 

[BlackFox5.0]

All the info you need is on that site. search for JYTT

 

[mooktank]

i was thinking about doing it over the winter since im not drivin the stang in the snow. I decided im gonna go with a kenne bell because its way easier. With a single turbo you gotta make your y pipe perfect, connect the headers to eachother. It's a lot of tubing and engineering. when im on my other computer ill get you some links to some really good turbo sites and places to buy 90 degree mandrel bends and stuff.

 

[millhouse]

i was thinking about doing it over the winter since im not drivin the stang in the snow. I decided im gonna go with a kenne bell because its way easier. With a single turbo you gotta make your y pipe perfect, connect the headers to eachother. It's a lot of tubing and engineering. when im on my other computer ill get you some links to some really good turbo sites and places to buy 90 degree mandrel bends and stuff.

I think it is really going to depend on your skill/fabrication level. Now granted I'm a back yard mechanic...when I see something that could be a challange...I jump all over it.

I'll be doing a twin kit myself...and after thoroughly researching the subject, I have come to the conclusing that it's not going to be all that hard...atleast from my viewpoint. Sure there is going to be a lot of cutting, fitting, measuring, welding etc. I dont believe however it is above my skill level.

 

[mooktank]

its going to be a pain in the ass i think. Its easy in theory yes but to make sire everything is perfect. now thats a different story. I mean i can cut and weld and i have all the necessary means to (even a tig welder) but i figured it would be too much and the kenne bell will be more fun and its only a bolt on deal. You have to move your battery to the truck, relocate a lot of wiring so it doesnt melt. a lot of stuff to do.

 

[millhouse]

its going to be a pain in the ass i think. Its easy in theory yes but to make sire everything is perfect. now thats a different story. I mean i can cut and weld and i have all the necessary means to (even a tig welder) but i figured it would be too much and the kenne bell will be more fun and its only a bolt on deal. You have to move your battery to the truck, relocate a lot of wiring so it doesnt melt. a lot of stuff to do.

A kenny bell more fun...

Seriously though, half the fun for me is getting something to work with my own to hands and what I have left of a brain.

Another thing to think about is price. For under $2500 I'll have a exploder engine complete with 30k on the odo. I'll also have a complete twin turbo setup including intercooler, injectors, maf, dyno tune etc. It's a tough price to beat when your considering the horsepower levels that are more than capable of splitting a stock 5.0 block.

 

[sheff2720]

well i cant weld but i have a friend that can and he would be more than willing to help me out with this.. from i kno so far is does look to be extreamly hard to do.. i think the fitting of everything would be the hardest part, and i like doing things like that, so im not worried about that.. as far a relocating the battery and moving some wires goes, i wanted to do that nayway.. so this will give me a reason to actually get around to it.. and for the price that you can do this, it almost has my mind made up.. although im not sure if i want to go single or twin

 

[hemi_fan]

http://www.geocities.com/windsor_302/TurboPartslist.html
Thats got a parts list if ya wanna chek it out.

 

[sheff2720]

http://www.geocities.com/windsor_302/TurboPartslist.html
Thats got a parts list if ya wanna chek it out.

wow that guy did if for less than $500

JYTurbo Parts List: Cost:

-2 .63 A/R T03 Turbochargers $175.00
- 1 Set of Flowtech 1 5/8's Shorty headers (new) $130.00
-3 Foot of 2.5 inch pipe (connects the header to the turbo) $15.00
-2 T03 turbo exuast flanges (homemade) $0.00
-2 T03 turbo exuast flange gaskets (homemade) $0.00
-2 90 deg electrical conduit pieces (plumbing) one on each
compressor side of the turbo) $18.00
-1 6 foot stick of 2 inch conduit pipe (more compressor side plumbing) $12.00
-1 Flowmaster 2 into one (two 2.5 inch input to one
3" output this ties the turbo's together) $45.00
-Misc Silicone hose and clamps: $30.00
-3" mandrel bend pipe for intake plumbing
(purchased a box FULL at the local semi junkyard): $25.00

-Total Cost of the homemade JY Twin Turbo kit: $450.00

 

[1990BLUEGT]

wow that guy did if for less than $500

JYTurbo Parts List: Cost:

-2 .63 A/R T03 Turbochargers $175.00
- 1 Set of Flowtech 1 5/8's Shorty headers (new) $130.00
-3 Foot of 2.5 inch pipe (connects the header to the turbo) $15.00
-2 T03 turbo exuast flanges (homemade) $0.00
-2 T03 turbo exuast flange gaskets (homemade) $0.00
-2 90 deg electrical conduit pieces (plumbing) one on each
compressor side of the turbo) $18.00
-1 6 foot stick of 2 inch conduit pipe (more compressor side plumbing) $12.00
-1 Flowmaster 2 into one (two 2.5 inch input to one
3" output this ties the turbo's together) $45.00
-Misc Silicone hose and clamps: $30.00
-3" mandrel bend pipe for intake plumbing
(purchased a box FULL at the local semi junkyard): $25.00

-Total Cost of the homemade JY Twin Turbo kit: $450.00

Now what are you going to do about an intercooler or the fact that your going to be running lean at high rpms?
You have to upgrade your fuel and spark. In other words, you most likely have to get a chip and tune that sucker.

 

[sheff2720]

Now what are you going to do about an intercooler or the fact that your going to be running lean at high rpms?
You have to upgrade your fuel and spark. In other words, you most likely have to get a chip and tune that sucker.

i would go with 36# or 42# injectors, maybe an FMU, and a dyno tune.. i was just showing that it can be done really cheaply as long as you are willing to some custom fabricating.. im not that stupid.. i wouldnt just slap a turbo on and call it a day

 

[mikeflys1]

Also to run low boost (like <8psi) you dont really need an intercooler.....so that cuts down on alot of extra piping.

 

[Turbo6]

Look up Slowjoe on this board, he's all about the junkyard turbo. I hope you speak Spanglish though

 

[millhouse]

Also to run low boost (like <8psi) you dont really need an intercooler.....so that cuts down on alot of extra piping.

The way I see it is...if your building a j/y twin setup, you will have to run quite a bit of plumbing for the cold side. You might as well put a intercooler on there, as it would be the easiest time to do so.

 

[Michael Yount]

sheft - just know what you're getting into. You said you'd do it all but the custom stuff. Well, a jy turbo install is just about ALL custom fabrication.

The other really tricky bit is getting the tune right. There are fundamental differences between the way supercharger boost and turbo boost work. The supercharger builds boost relative to rpm level. A turbo builds boost relative to both rpm AND load. So tuning one optimally requires a different mindset/skills than a supercharger tune.

Lots to think about --- but good luck with it. I'm playing/exploring hanging a turbo off of just one bank of the V-8 (the exhaust from 4 cylinders will drive it), but boosting all 8 cylinders with it. This approach is complex, and won't build as much boost (I don't want a lot), but it simplifies the exhaust fabrication. I don't have as much room as you guys do.

 

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

http://www.toohighpsi.com/BudgetTT/BudgetTT.htm

This guy eventually goes 10 seconds on Thunderbird TC turboes from a junkyard. Check out the PVC CAI...

 

[mooktank]

yount wont that setup end up not working well because of the sharp difference in backpressure between the 2 banks? Why dont you just build a sing turbo setup and run it at low psi on the wastgate?

 

[Venom351R]

Theres a guy in the 94/95 section that just attempted to tackle a project like this. It was very diffcult to get parts to fit right and the car never ran right at all. Ended up scraping the whole project. It may be cheaper to do a junk yard turbo but its alot easyer to just buy a kit.